Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Sir jee, we need it from them for ourselves.

just think for once if we had following equipment things would have been far far different in 2025

Fath TBM (180km/150kg/Mach 3-4/CEP <15m (if bediou applied) 6 x TBM/1 x TEL
Raad 500/Zohair TBM (500km/320kg/MaRV/Mach 4-5/CEP <30m (if bediou applied) 3 x TBM/1 x TEL
Meanwhile tomatoes are 130 rupees a kilo. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Okay no more pak discussion here. There are threads on Pak missiles discuss there.
 
Even if It is true there is a old spanish naval proverb that says "better honor without ships than ships without honor". That makes IRIN more respectful than other GCC navies that used their ships to protect Israel sealanes and even bomb Yemen.
the problem is that these ships hid in port without doing anything
 
MAGA and the Jewish lobby are entirely responsible for this. They better subsidize fuel now and not pass on costs to American citizens.


I am not paying for any increased gas costs. I will sue my own city and government and demand credits for fuel as I and other Americans didn't sign up for this

Let the Jewish-American community pay for it. And put the Jewish kids to fight in Iran if there's any ground op.
 
MAGA and the Jewish lobby are entirely responsible for this. They better subsidize fuel now and not pass on costs to American citizens.


will take a week or so to cause impact since there are oil reserves

taking out Qatar's natural gas today had a huge impact

next Saudi Arabia's east to west pipeline has to be attacked, unfortunately.
 
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just why would Israel (with US) want to attack Iran? It is not for land or wealth. Itis not ideology or eradication of some religion or sect. The fundamental cause has to be eradication of the threat of Iran popping a nuclear bomb and destroying Israel. Khamenei et al did not make their goal of destruction of Isreal exactly a secret. So what ends this war? Israel has to convince itself that there is no reasonable or even unreasonable path left for Iran to build the nuclear weapons.

Whoever lets Israel (via US/NATO/UN...) unrestricted inspection regime can then become the next leader. Very insulting to the ego of a proud ancient civilization but don't see anyother conclusion.



Pedo Trump needs a war of Mass Distraction to stop dumb Americans from thinking about the huge Epstein cover up.
 
Is there any air defense currently operational in Iran? Does not look like they have any, if the US is doing 1000+ sorties a day.
 
the problem is that these ships hid in port without doing anything
They didn't have real combat capability. IRIN did well saving crew lives. Something similar with IRIAF has happen. Islamic Republic would eventually send to death any F5/Kowsar pilot.
 
Also Iranian missile technology is at the same level or better than Pakistani one anyway, which makes sense as it forms the spear of their military doctrine/deterrence
Built for totally different purposes.

PA ones for Mushroom Clouds.

IRGC ones for covering the lack of an effective Airforce.

PA can build the ones Iran did it's nothing special. Just huge stockpiles.

In hindsight borrowing down in Balochistan won't be a bad idea.
 
I suspect Iran is running low on launchers compared to day 1.
I remember in the previous 2 wars, all of us on PDF would be ultra happy one day with Iran's attacks, ultra depressed and disappointed on day 2 and then everyone apologizing for losing hope and ultra happy on day 3 again at Iran overdoing anything that they did in the past days. The cycle kept repeating until the zios could not take it and gave up on threatening and ran off.

So lets all relax, we have seen this playing our twice already .. if there's anything to be learned from the last 2 times. The interesting thing this time is that while each loss of life is irreplicable, but the zios have performed far worse this time at numbers of their attacks and lost a lot more planes, drones, assets and regional bases. Lets hope they fk off even quicker than before and this time the regional countries also refuse to let them back in and amend things with Iran, with Iran becoming a stronger nation internally after Khamenei's sacrifice. From the sounds of it Chinese are stepping up things, Russia has taken Iran to IAEA with resolutions, whole Pakistan is with Iran. If Iran can absorb this one, things will become entirely different after this one.
 
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