Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

What can we do when the European, Americans and even the Ummah is so eager to defend Israel

 

[Meengla]

NYT is saying that?
I have been saying it for months.
Maybe NYT writers read PDF, LOL.

Well, here it is:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/26/us/politics/trump-russia-china.html

Trump’s Vision: One World, Three Powers?​

President Trump’s recent actions and statements suggest he might want an arrangement where the United States, China and Russia each dominate their sphere of influence.

May 26, 2025
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For President Trump, anytime is a good time for deal-making, but never more so than now with the leaders of China and Russia.

Last week, Mr. Trump said he wanted to normalize commerce with Russia, appearing to lessen the pressure on Moscow to settle its war with Ukraine. And he is trying to limit the fallout from his own global trade war by urging China’s leader to call him.

“We all want to make deals,” Mr. Trump said in a recent interview with Time magazine. “But I am this giant store. It’s a giant, beautiful store, and everybody wants to go shopping there.”

Mr. Trump may have something even bigger in mind involving Russia and China, and it would be the ultimate deal.

His actions and statements suggest he might be envisioning a world in which each of the three so-called great powers — the United States, China and Russia — dominates its part of the globe, some foreign policy analysts say.

It would be a throwback to a 19th-century style of imperial rule.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran never protected its brightest minds. What else is new.

any HVTs who survived must be moved to secure locations before subsequent waves to prevent even more damage

 

[ShapurII]

that was just the first wave ... but now there are two parties not just Israel

Their hits on our nuclear infrastructure seems far from impressive and effective enough to destroy our enrichment capacity. Maybe there will be more to come in the coming hours or days, who knows?

 

[Immortals]

What do you guys think, does Islam allow nuclear weapons?

If it doesn’t then how does Pakistan have nuclear weapons? Why is Turkey and Saudi Arabia building their own nuclear programs?

 

[K2RULEZ]

NATO has nukes as well so Nukes won't be used

Don't be so sure about that now.

 

[Unknowntruth]

We will see what "Axis of Resistance" is worth now.
If they do nothing this time, Iran should throw them under the bus.

The lack of controlling the escalation ladder is why Iran is in this mess. Axis of resistance should have went full force from the beginning but the resistance in Gaza were the only ones willing to go full force.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Immortals]

any HVTs who survived must be moved to secure locations before subsequent waves to prevent even more damage

Where? For how long? Israel can kill these HVTs anytime it wants after this latest tit for tat is over. Iran cannot keep all or scientists locked up in a bunker forever. These are human beings not cattle.

 

[SaadH]

You said HUMINT. Satellite data is not HUMINT.
Israel found our nuclear scientists through IAEA reports. And most of the people they assassinated taught at public universities.

This thing is on a whole different level. I'm talking about the initial tweet you discussed.

Why were Israeli citizens and tourists around the world running around with not a single worry in the world? If Iran was serious about retaliating against Israel for taking out it's scientists over the years, it should have made the lives of Israelis in any part of the world a living hell.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Where? For how long? Israel can kill these HVTs anytime it wants after this latest tit for tat is over. Iran cannot keep all or scientists locked up in a bunker forever. These are human beings not cattle.

HVTs live in bunkers during wartime, it's normal.

just a few months until we build nuclear weapons.

 

[Hareeb]

When a country spends billions on proxies instead of building its own air force, this outcome was inevitable.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Israel claims more commanders were killed who haven't been announced yet

 

[soundwave1987]

Just yesterday the German news outlet DW was questioning Pakistan's defence budget increase. Not only should this budget be increased. Pakistan should get the best of the best. It is war all over the place and we are back to the wild wild West.

I would like to suggest Pak military to introduce all their critical structures with PLA equipments，and absorb the tech transfered as much as possible to make a “combo”. Last month air combat already showed us the importance of integrated systematic warfare，there is no time to waite for the Turk equipments to mature. The next decade should be focused on introduce J50 and better deep strick ability.

 

[SaadH]

This is a learning lesson with regards to our capabilities. If Iran, can be targeted by a much smaller modernised nation, imagine what USA can do to decapitate Pakistan's nuclear weapons. I hope our leaders are watching this. This could shape global politics and future conflicts. India will also be watching this very closely.

Yes, that's exactly what the Taliban considered for twenty years. Let's all just surrender...