Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

no, he meant dropping tactical nuclear bombs

Spot on. Thats what im expecting as well. As a last resort Trump is going to Nuke iran.

 

[Bengal71]

No wonder they can infiltrate into Iranian and Arab ranks, their appearance enables them to blend in..

No, they don't look like Arabs. They look weird, eastern European type weird, even worse. They have been interbreeding within a small community in Europe for centuries, could be the result of that.

 

[maxpane]

5 coffins have already arrived in usa . there will a storm of protest when the number rises to 100

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

If all GCC pressure failed to stop this war, there is a high chance that Arabs will pull out of Abraham accord

That specific accord is only between the UAE, Zion and the US.

There are no other parties to this.

It's like the Defence Pact between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. No other nation is covered under that pact.

 

[Meengla]

Its the second time Iran becomes a victim of chemical warfare. If there’s any country that should have nukes it’s Iran. And not only nukes, but chemical weapons, biological weapons, dirty bombs etc.

If it becomes a terminal situation for the state of Iran, then it would be fair to launch weapons of mass destruction on Israel; they don't have to be nukes.
That should be Iran's Samson Option!

 

[KingQamaR]

Sure.

But lemme say it first and NOW- US hasn't lost this war, the only issue is how long from now it takes the US govt and military to accept the war is lost.

i say this because the military challenge and reaction US and Israel have received from Iran, its people and AoR so far is much larger than what they received from Iraq and Afghanistan combined, and US and israel havent performed so well since this war started, so I am concluding now that the US and israel have lost this war against Iran.

It took US 8 years to realize Afghanistan war was a loss and its taken me 8 days to realize US and israel have lost this war. Screenshot this.

I do not believe a longtime war was baked into the Equation before the start of hostilities.

I believe criminal Trump embolden by success in Venezuela believed he could get a better Iranian deal if he were to decapitate your leadership of Iran and you Iranians would come scurrying to criminal Trump for a ceasefire.

The fact this has a chance to be longterm is an absolute disaster for Trump administration and the US MILITARY .

 

[hussain0216]

Just try it. There are 4 million Pakistanis living in those "kinglets".

They are slaves, what are they going to do????

It's more important form Pakistan that Iran survives

Those kinglets may be important on a financial level for us but at a strategic level they are tiny states that the west uses to destabilise the entire region and they have to be bought to heel

 

[Tsubasa]

 

[EugeneP]

Another Non hostile death of US marine
Haha Larijani was spot on when he said that. Not even hours in his interview and we have two nonhostile deaths.. number of casulties is definitely way above.

No need for conspiracy, people die from many reasons. Could be a heart attack, traffic accidents, food poisoning . . . During 1991 Iraq war, more troops died by traffic accidents than by enemy fire! Driving in strange places without familiar signage, signaling & lighting can be dangerous.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Now the war is getting to hitting water plants of each other. Damn that Chinese professor going viral on YouTube is genius. He predicated everything right so far. He also predicated the downfall of US and trump bcz of Iran war.

 

[FUB]

That is six launches from one spot simultaneously. Air superiority?

 

[Immortals]

Iran's answer to Israel+US massive missile shield: cluster munitions

these seem to be the only weapon consistently penetrating Israeli defences

Iran will need to fire 20+ missiles per day for 1-2 more weeks to start to deplete Israeli interceptor stockpiles

I suspect that Israel isn’t firing interceptors at the cluster munitions and standing down or else the automation would want to fire 40+ interceptors.

If Iran used cluster munitions in TP1 or TP2 it would have quickly learned the best way to get penetration is a 1 or 2 cluster missiles for every 5-10 normal missiles in a salvo. It would overwhelm the targeting radar and cause more impacts.

If iran survives this, this should be the next goal when rebuilding the missile force. Along with next gen aid penetration like dropping aluminum leaflets in upper atmosphere to cause radar beams to refract wildly

 

[tsunset]

 

[EugeneP]

Looks like missile attacks are mostly over and it is mostly drone warfare now. If this trend continues, war may end soon, hopefully.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Well whatever Iran does it must do it quick - as it stands based on available simulation models run using AI from SenSusQ Iran can overwhelm the defenses of Israel with a barrage of missiles and drones - but this model takes into account that the bulk of the Iranian thrust is at full or near full strength.

The AI model is slightly biased in the favor of Israel early warning radars to detect Iranian threats. This is due to the model being fed information based on research from the 12-day war when Israeli defense systems were tested to peak capacity:
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For this simulation I used Iranian weapon systems:

1. EMAD Missile
2. Shahed Drones
3. KALBIR
4. ZOLFAGHAR
5. FATEH

I set the scenario to launch intermittent swarms of Shahed drones in between missile launches particular ZOLFAGHR and FATEH to overwhelm the defense batteries.

From the Israeli side the systems in place for this simulation were:

• IRIST Radar
• David Sling
• Arrow 3 and Arrow 2
• THAAD
• Patriot Batteries (Nrth Tel Aviv)

I then ran the simulation at 150x speed to test the results, although slightly off my original predictions you can see why the Israeli's and the Americans targeted Western Iran so hard in the beginning of the campaign - this was do weaken Iranian capability to launch concentrated strikes against Israel as we witnessed last year.

Here is the simulation video:


This tactic by Israel left Iran with the only viable choice to use its remaining missiles and offensive capabilities to target threat vectors closer to its borders.
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I am not defending Iran's decision to attack neighboring gulf nations, not my place. All I am saying is explains Iran's tactics thus far in the war.
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However by losing the ability to conduct large scale missile strikes deep into Israeli territory - Iran leaves itself exposed to threats along the western sector particularly along Urmia and Tabriz and border regions adjoining northern Iraq where Israel has been targeting police and security force compounds.
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I watched a few podcasts on this conflict and from what they were discussing, it made 100% sense to me why Iran is taking out the Petrol-Kings. The way the petrol dollars work is these countries sell their petrol in dollars and then reinvest the same dollars into the US economy (specifically the banking system) which allows the US to borrow large sums of funds at a lower interests rate. The investment along undercuts any debt the US holds as it provides the Americans low cost, immediate cash. Its cycle repeated since the 1970s.
If you stop the oil production in the Gulf and collapse their economies, the financial muscle withered away.

A lot of people do not understand the full picture. I'm not surprised at the strategy Iran is using. Only thing I'm somewhat confused is why Iraq (Baghdad specifically) hasn't been taken over by the Iraqis Shia. Iraq is another jewel in the crown of the petrol dollars.

The Russians and Chinese are likely providing intelligence at a safe distance. Probably a lot of we don't know.