Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF!

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well this is good but can Iran actually pull this off ? We have seen poor accuracy and high interception of Iranian missiles this time around. Israelis only understand force.
 
Biggest fools inside IRI ? Reformists + Principalists who thought they can climb up the ladder of power by "talking" with Zionists and their controlled Evangelicals. They created the currency crisis twice. They started talks over national security twice and here we are.

I wont be surprised if Larijani was trying to elevate Rohani over Mojtaba to pave way for a peaceful dialogue. Remember how much he was flying around during Oman talks. In one way or other, these "dialogue" guys are being removed is a blessing in disguise. I want fatva crowd gone as well.
 
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mangekyo said:
Netanyahu is dead. The rumors are true

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I think he is not dead. He is hiding somewhere in Europe or is getting treatment in a hospital.
 
Watandar said:
Unless the Iranians completely collapse I don't see any easy military solutions in the current Hormuz Strait situation. All land based actions will be escalatory.

Mr Trump seems to be going for seizing the Kharg Island oil terminal while simultaneously attacking Iranian coastal defenses. Maybe he intends to declare victory after that and end the war but to me, its further flawed thinking.
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Yes, that is why I feel the war has been 'good' so far (i.e. relatively few casualties) but may turn ugly over Hormuz. I don't think U.S. can ever walk away with 'not free' strait. That may provoke increasingly horrible decisions. There was a similar crisis in 1956 over Suez Canal and ended up in a big mess. The canal was not useable for many months. It also remained closed for 8 years after 1967 war.
 
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It was known that if Iran's strength weakened, its oil fields would be destroyed.
The Ebstein coalition planned from the beginning to burn down all the oil facilities and fields when Iran's ability to retaliate was diminished.
There is no way to control the escalation.
It's time for the Iranian people to realize that there is no other option but to blow up all the GCC oil fields while they still have the strength to fight, that there is no other option but total war.
 
Emirzad said:
What the point of how one gets injured or killed ? casualty is a casualty in the end. Also 4000 hospitalized injured + thousands of buildings being damaged by their mouth makes no sense for 19-20 reported casualties. Never ever before have we seen such extreme low casualty rate for such high number of injured population or the high extent of damage we are seeing inside Israel through minimal leaks. Why the gag order on not just media but also private footage leaks otherwise? why the extreme level censorship and secrecy otherwise?

Also bunkers work but not against 3400 lbs warhead of Sejjil. I have been noticing they are reporting 50-100 injuries for every Sejjil-II or K-4 strike but somehow by some made up Jewish Miracle no one dies.

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Like I always say, they do not want to ruin their perception of invincibility which they have created giving severe beatings/genocides to Arabs over the decades. IRI on the other hand is too naive to report everything or one can say the system thrives on dead bodies.
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So they are censoring hospital records and funerals? You can't keep that secret for very long. So they don't censor when 2 people died last night but all these hundreds of dead are just being kept a secret? The reality is you're not going to get mass casualty events if your only shooting 15-20 missiles a day at a 1-2 missile salvo rate.
 
flyingorca said:
I think he is not dead. He is hiding somewhere in Europe or is getting treatment in a hospital.
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If He is not Dead and Israel then there is only one place in Israel he will be hiding at....
US Embassy...
He is not hiding from Iran....
He is hiding from CIA because he went against CIA and forced the hand of the president of USA...
They are not happy and NETENYAHU knows it and the only place CIA won't touch him is US Embassy in Israel..
Just a thought
And I don't blame Bibi to be afraid.. he should be...
 
Watandar said:
well this is good but can Iran actually pull this off ? We have seen poor accuracy and high interception of Iranian missiles this time around. Israelis only understand force.
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If not, it's most likely the reason why they're focusing on the gulfies. Which isn't bad strategy long term to have the gulfies destroyed.
 
dbc said:
Sorry IMHO, Iran doesn't have the moral high ground both sides are evil and none of them are fighting for 'humanity'.
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The concept of morality has never, and will never, apply to the field of international geopolitics. Only national interests rule in this arena, for everyone, equally, always have, and always will.
 
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