Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Trump on Strait of Hormuz: “At a certain point, it’ll open itself.”

I thought Zelensky was the comedian

 

[Bharatah]

New round of geopolitical analysts from Brazil:

- Iran has extensive military production in underground cities that are protected even from nuclear attacks.

- In these locations, Iran is producing more missiles and drones than the entire West combined.

- There is also production in Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, etc.

- Many analysts consider it certain that Iran is receiving parts and even entire drones and missiles produced in North Korea and China; they come via Afghanistan and are painted as if they were Iranian.

- Iran has more than 50,000 missiles stockpiled, launching 10 missiles per day. In one year, it consumes 3,600 missiles, and in 10 years, only 36,000 missiles, and even then, thousands more would remain, plus many more that are being produced.

NOTE: Therefore, it is unanimously agreed that Iran could wage 10 to 20 years of war at this same pace.

 

[Watandar]

neither public suppression nor protection I suspect the Marines will secure exfil for precious cargo if things go south.

I doubt that. The only country in the Gulf where the monarchs are in some actual danger of being overthrown is Bahrain, because it's a Sunni autocrat ruling what many say is a Shia majority country. But the last Bahrain uprising in 2010s was put down by Bahraini and Saudi forces and their hired guns from the subcontinent, no US forces were required.

Maybe you don't know the Gulf mentality but in their view the white men of the US military are the ultimate heroes who are brought as a last resort to save th Gulfies from monsters like Saddam or Iran.

 

[Taimoor]

Interesting. What happened here.

Post from Al Jazeera English

Rescue forces heading to reported impact sites in central Israel following Iranian missile launches Israel’s military says rescue and recovery forces are on ...

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[Persian Gulf]

 

[sharreman10]

Amazing logic.

But again, that's the mental gymnastics people that keep on running with that narrative have to do in order to explain the obvious away and maintain their BS propaganda that our revolution is just a Zionist plot, and Iranians are the real angels for their intervention there.

Why be upset by established facts? It is hardly surprising. Both Israel and the US have and had a clear interest in dismantling the land corridor Iran used to supply Hezbollah. These are the facts. Check the the link below.

Timber Sycamore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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[Arash]

 

[vizier]

This move is very important. After every occasion like this clarification should be made immediately with proof if possible(or demanding proof that usa supplied radar data may possibly be manipulated and should be correlated with other radars like Russian radars in Latakia or Chinese ships etc.). It can quickly turn into a nato issue. Also not only a nato issue but Turkey has even closer links to Pakistan than saudi arabia. A false flag that is not disproven and some loose links can make both countries distance themselves from Iran. Which is what isreal wants ofcourse. Ballistic trajectory should be as far as possible from Turkey in my opinion while hitting isreal.

 

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[Starlord]

I am not sure if the minimal Israeli goal, which was to set back Iranian economy and its military capabilities by decades, is achieved yet.

I think it depends and given the fog of war its hard to know, we will know when cease-fire happen and media start reporting. Bibi is on a religious war path, i know many Americans will shrug it off but bibi is doing all that with a faith of bringing his messiah, he is a lunatic and he probably knows that he either gonna get jail time corruption or he may even have some sort of Terminal illness, but Israel's deep state is gonna suck bibi to a point that they will tie up all lose ends like Hamas, Hez and Iran. And if dust settle and new leadership is bit less crazy in Israel, they will just say it was all bibi who went crazy, Trump will have secret service protection so he will live a peaceful life in Mara lago, occasional issuing statements on how he made America so great. Iran's victory is in its survival, and hence we are seeing that neither Israel/America is letting it slide, but one thing is refreshing that more and more Americans are getting aware of AIPAC and Israel holding America by balls.

recently in my own co-workers group chat, which is sort of neutral in this whole war/conflict, first time a couple of people mentioned over topic of Charlie that he was killed because he get on the wrong side of Israel.

 

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[Ali_Baba]

It could be a precautionary meeting, like I said maybe Pakistan will send its AF for defensive role, to shoot down drones and BM's, now in this day and age, pics and videos will come out if PAF start operation in KSA, so in that the Shia's of Pakistan should not see such operation as Pakistan taking Part in any offensive or bombing campaign against Iran, no matter how many ups and downs we have with Iran it will be very low chance that PA will directly attack Iran or take Part side by side with America/Israel or Gulfie's, remember we said no to send our troops in Yemen, and we got threaten and even paid a dearly price for it.

if Pakistan does go to defend Saudi, then the messaging on this to the people must be clear, precise and correct and defined what "defending" means. Offensive operations "into" Iran should be off the table, Pakistan should not defend USA bases or USA military personnel either. Any attempt to lie, will cause resentment and given the size of the Shia population in Pakistan, as we saw with the Embassy incident, will create a lot of problems.

I don't think we are there yet, but it is difficult to know what is "truly" going on in MBS's mind, and what he has promised to the USA and how deeply he is, or isn't involved with the USA attack planning on Iran.