Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

My perspective on the ongoing war is this: if the United States and Israel win, the Gulf countries could become heavily controlled by them, and countries like Turkey and Pakistan might be next. And grater Israel will be the next step.


On the other hand, if Iran wins, there will likely be no regime change, and even a stalemate would still benefit Iran. This could make Iran a bigger regional power and possibly more aggressive. I say this because, despite facing sanctions from the United States for the past 45 years, Iran has still managed to influence or destabilize several regions and support groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.


In my opinion, the best outcome for the world—especially for the Muslim world—would be a ceasefire between Iran and the United States/Israel. The United Nations should enforce stricter sanctions where necessary, and occupied areas in Lebanon should be returned.

In short I don't want anyone would win the war but wanted a stalemate ceasefire with UN intervention with more harsh sanctions on Iran and Israel.

@RescueRanger @Panzerkiel

Welcome me back.

Your thoughts.

Bro welcome back, but this thread is not about Pakistan it is about IRAN.

Kindly discuss Pakistan in Pakistan/KSA MSA thread.

 

[kobra]

Why the post got deleted, it was not off topic.

 

[RescueRanger]

Why the post got deleted, it was not off topic.

I will DM you. Don't question mod decisions in threads.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Bro welcome back, but this thread is not about Pakistan it is about IRAN.

Kindly discuss Pakistan in Pakistan/KSA MSA thread.

Bro Sorry for off topic but this topic even tightly consider the fate and future of whole Muslim world including Pakistan.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Bro Sorry for off topic but this topic even tightly consider the fate and future of whole Muslim world including Pakistan.

But I will refrain in future,

 

[RescueRanger]

Bro Sorry for off topic but this topic even tightly consider the fate and future of whole Muslim world including Pakistan.

It's not a Pakistani thread. Further off topic posts will be deleted l.

 

[kobra]

BREAKING Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps:The American president—"the liar, the terrorist, and the child killer"—claimed that the Revolutionary Guard intends to target water desalination stations in the region and harm its peoples.What we have done is announce our decision: In the event that power stations are targeted, Iran will respond by targeting power stations belonging to the occupying entity, as well as power stations in regional countries that supply electricity to U.S. bases, in addition to the economic and industrial infrastructure and energy sector in which the Americans hold shares. There is no doubt that we will do so.We are determined to respond to any threat at a level that achieves deterrence, and we will do so. The United States does not know our capabilities, and it will see them in the field.

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

My perspective on the ongoing war is this: if the United States and Israel win, the Gulf countries could become heavily controlled by them, and countries like Turkey and Pakistan might be next. And grater Israel will be the next step.


On the other hand, if Iran wins, there will likely be no regime change, and even a stalemate would still benefit Iran. This could make Iran a bigger regional power and possibly more aggressive. I say this because, despite facing sanctions from the United States for the past 45 years, Iran has still managed to influence or destabilize several regions and support groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.


In my opinion, the best outcome for the world—especially for the Muslim world—would be a ceasefire between Iran and the United States/Israel. The United Nations should enforce stricter sanctions where necessary, and occupied areas in Lebanon should be returned.

In short I don't want anyone would win the war but wanted a stalemate ceasefire with UN intervention with more harsh sanctions on Iran and Israel.

@RescueRanger @Panzerkiel

Welcome me back.

Your thoughts.

The UN is a useless entity. They have done nothing of note in the past 20 years. They offer resolutions, proclamations, statements in solidarity, but do nothing. How many times have peacekeepers been attacked in Lebanon deliberately? What has the UN done in regards to the Ukraine/Russia situation besides offer strongly worded letters? What did it do to prevent the situation in Syria, Iraq, Lybia, etc deteriorating into chaotic civil wars? What did it do to help prevent the Gaza Genocide? What has the ICJ accomplished beyond minor travel inconveniences for various individuals? Nothing has come of any of these aforementioned examples because the organization is toothless.

The rule of law established in the aftermath of WW2 died a while ago. The rule of power has been the de facto modus operandi for the world for quite some time now. Countries must either understand this and act accordingly, or be trampled.

oops in my defense i was writing this post when it got deleted lmao

 

[RescueRanger]

IDF admit their air defence system failed in Dimona

 

[kobra]

Looking at Gold and Silver prices right now with respect to current Iran and US/Israil war plus upcoming threat of total infrastrufture destruction, Its not making sense at all..

People tends to rush toward hard asset in these scenarios, however gold andd silver both are like free falling right now.

 

[kobra]

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[Maarkhoor]

The UN is a useless entity. They have done nothing of note in the past 20 years. They offer resolutions, proclamations, statements in solidarity, but do nothing. How many times have peacekeepers been attacked in Lebanon deliberately? What has the UN done in regards to the Ukraine/Russia situation besides offer strongly worded letters? What did it do to prevent the situation in Syria, Iraq, Lybia, etc deteriorating into chaotic civil wars? What did it do to help prevent the Gaza Genocide? What has the ICJ accomplished beyond minor travel inconveniences for various individuals? Nothing has come of any of these aforementioned examples because the organization is toothless.

The rule of law established in the aftermath of WW2 died a while ago. The rule of power has been the de facto modus operandi for the world for quite some time now. Countries must either understand this and act accordingly, or be trampled.

oops in my defense i was writing this post when it got deleted lmao

The United Nations is very important for the world. It helps protect weaker countries and keeps peace. I hope the UN survives. Without it, the world could become a place where power is everything. Some people in India might even think that if Israel and the United States win against Iran, they could try to take AJK.

But due to Allah's help we are now powerful enough to face any challenge

Iran's biggest mistake is creating enemies within Islamic world by supporting and creating proxies and the regime of extremist MULLAHS.

 

[Maarkhoor]

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They deployed appache and A-10 Thunderbolts to support invasion of Khargh island of Iran but US will forget what they face casualties in Vietnam once they tried to put foots on ground and since they interduce these tools which support close airsupport indicates they will send soldiers on this this island.

 

[kobra]

Kan News reports that Israel fully supports Trump's ultimatum to Iran within 48 hours and advocates for large-scale strikes on Iran's energy infrastructure.

The Israeli government believes that the "window of opportunity" for diplomacy is closed, and the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz gives a legitimate right to respond. According to sources, the Israeli Air Force has already been put on high alert to participate in a joint operation with the US to destroy Iranian thermal power stations, hydroelectric power stations, and electricity distribution hubs.

However, there is a weak point in this scheme. Namely - Israel's energy sector. It is located relatively compactly, which, with the right level of persistence on the part of Iran, will allow it to cause much more damage than before. What plan Israel has in case of the start of retaliatory strikes on the energy sector is still unknown.