Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Foinikas said:
They erased entire cities and cultures. Remember Baghdad,which was a gem of civilization. Rus cities and towns. They would slaughter the defeated to almost to the last person.


Greeks Shapur,Greeks. It was a unified force :P
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ahhhh here comes the greek to twist facts (like they always do), he knows very well what crusaders even did to byzantine and yet hey look asians are the bad not the europeans.

europeans have been salughtering each others for years cuz of christianity , who can forget northern crusades and the murder of children, women and men in northern europe just to spread christanity .. do you want me to put a list of how many cities were destroyed , kids were killed and women were raped by bother orthdox and catholic armies?
 
The SC said:
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American intelligence assessments say that the Iranian regime does not appear to be disintegrating yet, while the Iranian military leadership has lost a lot and has not suffered, and there is debate about the extent of its endurance.

The Revolutionary Guards are still in strong control, and those leading Iran are more hardline than their predecessors.

Speech according to US intelligence assessments provided to Trump and reported by NBC and Axios.
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Yeah, remember for a straight 10 years, very year was going to be the "end of the Taliban" according to US intel "assessments"...
 
Ali_Baba said:

Gulf states consider new pipelines to avoid Strait of Hormuz​


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Gulf states consider new pipelines to avoid Strait of Hormuz

Conflict prompts countries to revisit plans that replicate Saudi Arabia’s East-West pipeline despite huge cost and complexity
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Egypt profited some much due to our own pipleline (sumid) it used to transfer 1 million barrel daily now 2.5 million due to war.

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Yasser76 said:
Every single one of these ports is in missile range of Iran...
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Yes, agree. But this approach breaks the escalation ladder into two. First, is shutting down the straits, and the second is to directly attack countries to go after ports and pipelines to stop the oil flow.
 
ShapurII said:
As you said, the Iranians are smart and they understand the Chinese mentality quite well.

They have let Iran down many times and stabbed us in the back at every turn, but now that Iran is winning this war at a great cost to our country and infrastructure, they're the first one demanding credit!

They have ruined Iran with their "friendship" with us. 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions that crippled our economy. A recent UNSC resolution that enables GCC states to ask for reparations from us through the ICJ, effectively ruining our already fragile economy even further. And another UNSC proposal by Bahrain that is in the making as we speak and will legitimize military force against us, which is probably going to be passed again.

The US, particularly under a maniac like Trump, is an absolutely terrible enemy for us. But when we were on friendly terms with them, they did help Iran a lot and built a lot of things for us that lasted decades. The modern Chinese did nothing for Iran even when we were having peak friendly relations.
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We all recognize Iran’s sacrifices and China’s UNSC votes are reality. Still, every country prioritizes its own people and national interests. What you see as betrayal, we see as realpolitik. Neither friendship nor enmity is absolute in international affairs. That’s just how sovereign states operate.
 
Blain2 said:
Trump is the ultimate Manchurian candidate. Strategically placed to unravel the US position in the world through sheer stupidity and myopic, whimsical policies (except those that help in whisperers from Israel and their local cabal inside of Washington DC).
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So, overall, this is what many people around the world desire - a world without US leadership and hegemony - and hence Trump is ideal for that. The present war is just one of the associated effects with such a change, that is all.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Yes, agree. But this approach breaks the escalation ladder into two. First, is shutting down the straits, and the second is to directly attack countries to go after ports and pipelines to stop the oil flow.
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The Strait of Hormuz is a card that Iran should not overplay.

It worked this time, but our authorities would be a fool if they think they can overplay it and use it again and again in the future.
 
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