Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
Iran air defense engaging a fighter jet: seen firing off flares (NOTE: no proof it was hit).

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Jets can still fire flares even after being hit though, not saying that this particular jet was definitely hit.
 
hussain0216 said:
China is generally happy to sell to any buyer as long as it doesn't effect Chinese interests

China would happily sell Iran whatever it wants or needs

The problem is U.S/western sanctions make the deal unlucrative, any money china makes from the deal may be countered by sanctions etc

And china always acts in it's own interests and if a country wants more Chinese support then it has to work with China more closely


Pakistan is close to China, and because our relationship is so close whenever our back was against the wall for whatever reason, we could also rely on support from China

Even in the conflict with India last year, Pakistan received support from both China and Turkey
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I don't really want to comment on the China-Pakistan relations as it does not concern me.

I will share a lesson of history with you, hopefully it might clear some things up for you about my opinion:

In the early 19th century, France and Iran were at war with the Tsarist Russia. Iran under the reign of the Qajar dynasty signed a strategic treaty with France under the reign of Napoleon Bonaparte. Based on this treaty, France agreed to guarantee Iran's territorial integrity, help Iran retake Georgia, and train and equip Iranian armed forces against Tsarist Russia. The French started to train Qajar's armed forces. In return, Iran agreed to severe diplomatic ties with the British, provide the French with a route towards India and to side with France in future conflicts against the British.

A few months or years later, France reached a peace treaty with the Tsarist Russia (the Tilsit Treaty). France chose to establish "brotherly" ties with the Russians against the British. Iran was thrown under the bus. This eventually led to Iran giving concessions to the British, and led to defeats against the Tsarist Russia that led to some of the most humiliating peace treaties that we ever signed.

This whole concept of a strategic alliance with a power that shares a common enemy with you is cool, but when that power has a history of throwing their friends under the bus, it should not be taken for granted.
 
safriz said:
Can I post a similar cartoon about Iranian leadership? Well whatever is left of them.
Just one ?
I mean , that will be only fair ?
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Can you stop with your sectarian posts? Which western leaders did any Iranian leaders know toe to?
 
hussain0216 said:
China is generally happy to sell to any buyer as long as it doesn't effect Chinese interests

China would happily sell Iran whatever it wants or needs

The problem is U.S/western sanctions make the deal unlucrative, any money china makes from the deal may be countered by sanctions etc

And china always acts in it's own interests and if a country wants more Chinese support then it has to work with China more closely


Pakistan is close to China, and because our relationship is so close whenever our back was against the wall for whatever reason, we could also rely on support from China

Even in the conflict with India last year, Pakistan received support from both China and Turkey
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Maybe need to make new friends if China is super close yet Pakistan still has half the population in proper poverty, a military industrial complex that is as corrupt as the Americans where generals are mega rich. China benefits from selling weapons, they don't enrich Pakistan, they enrich some dodgy politician.
 
Aggregate said:
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Every single term of every US president ... how it starts and how it ends
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Maga never ever did any such thing such as in the blue graphic

From the beginning they were bankrupting America , increasing inflation, never closed border or built wall , made wars and did nothing for housing
 
hasn2009 said:
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Joe Kent, Pam Bondi, Tulsi Gabbard, now Randy George ..

Iran is causing a regime change in Washington without even an attack :ROFLMAO:
 
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