Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

ShapurII said:
You have to start somewhere. We spent more than $100 billion on our proxy groups and Syria and what have we achieved with all that money?

Our missiles have proven to be ineffective at deterring Israel, or the US. And we seem quite vulnerable when it comes to defense. Our only effective weapon so far has been the Strait of Hormuz.
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Iran doesn't have "proxies". Stop repeating western propaganda. Iran has Allies(Axis of resistance).
-The AoR in Iraq Kept Daesh from coming into our borders. This time around they attacked U.S forces until they pulled of most of their bases in Iraq. They attacked the U.S mercenary Army in Iraqi Kurdistan, preventing them from being a threat to our western borders. They are also bringing in Humanitarian aid to Iran and have vowed to fight with us if their is a ground war.
- The AoR in Lebonan was "resurrected" after many people including yourself had thought they were a spent force to bombard all throughout Occupied Palestine in conjunction with over the Hundred waves of True Promise 4 operations of the IRGC. They attacked IOF in southern Lebanon striking well over 100 Merkava's and putting huge pressure physically and psychologically on Zionist troops.
- The AOR in Yemen has carried out missile and Drone strikes against occupied Palestine in conjunction with Hezbollah and Iran.

The IRIAF was in the process of being rebuilt but no matter how much Iran spends on it, it will only ever be effective against regional rivals. Not the worlds predominant air force.
ShapurII said:
Even in mountains, there are people with cameras and smart phones.
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You are joking right? There are 390 mountains in Iran over 2000 meters alone. You think there are people crawling around every single one of them?
 
BHAN85 said:
Interesting last tweet from Araghchi.

He said deal was almost reached and the Americans suddenly changed conditions.

Trump said that deal was impossible due to nuclear issue.

It seems more credible Araghchi version.

A world superpower changing positions each moment depending of blackmails.
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You really think "Americans" told Araghchi to go ahead with nukes and realized in the last minute it is bad idea? Most rational people were expecting the talks to end in an impasse. The gulf is too wide to be bridged by negotiations.
 
Ibbi32 said:
PAF cant last agaisnt combined usaf and iaf that would be a fools excercise but we dont intend on fighting them directly and unlinke iran we have a nuclear weapon to deter Israel and us with. But still irans lack of adequate air defence even without a proper air force is troubling aside from a couple token kills a few days ago and whose rescue mission iran failed to capitalise on enemy aircraft roam your skies freely since the first week. The us has achieved near air dominance and only takes damage doing risky things like strafing runs in manpad range. Iran must adress this deficiency if it wants to keep surviving against us and Israeli forces.
Paf wont last that long but should any hostile airforce attempt to fight Pakistan they will pay dearly you can make sure of that.
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I know you don't intend to fight them. Please remind your Fellow countrymen who keep insisting that IRIAF could if it followed the PAF model.
 
tsunset said:
Iranian diaspora are supporting people that calls PG "Arabian Gulf"

Iranian diaspora Pahlavist degenerates are patriots, but only against Arabs! If the US renames it Gulf of America, they will accept it because they are whites.
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"Na Gazzeh, Na Lobnan. Janam fadayeh Khalij Arabestan!!!"
 
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Immortals said:
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A lot of talk from from Trump but I’m fairly sure china will be running out of patience once their economy takes a big hit sooner or later from this war I can at least see china escorting Iranian ships with one naval ship alone to Chinese ports I honestly can imagine a huge line of tankers going to china you might laugh but America isn’t going to war with china and china doesnt want t to go to war with America but no American force would lay a hand on chinaes coast guard ship let alone a destroyer
 
BHAN85 said:
Interesting last tweet from Araghchi.

He said deal was almost reached and the Americans suddenly changed conditions.

Trump said that deal was impossible due to nuclear issue.

It seems more credible Araghchi version.

A world superpower changing positions each moment depending of blackmails.
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Like I said US never could make a deal as Yahu is blackmailing us in the corner.
 
Kyussis said:
Does Chump know about the Caspian sea?
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I think the iaf does and they have no problem blowing up civilian ships and trump won’t blink an eye about it and Europe will look the other way sorry that’s the truth
 
ety said:
What, you expect China to go to war with US on these occasions ? Unrealistic. China won't get into war with US unless it is absolutely necessary like its existential is involved and there are no other ways around. Venezuela and Iran are not China's core interests, and I wouldn't even classify them as China's allies in strategic or military sense.
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This ^ very well said.
 
MastanKhan said:
Hi,

This part of the summit is over---. Now the unpredictable starts---.

The aggressor cannot explain why he started it---the defender does not want to capitulate---.

So---there will be a lots of pain in the making---.
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I believe first round happened. Now posturing starts for the second round for talks. However I don't see a resolution as US leadership is being blackmailed. They can't independently make a decision.
 
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