Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

I agree that if Iran does not actually have the stamina to fight US for 6-12 months at least, it might as well had made enough concessions to US to prevent US and iarael attacking it i the first place.

Leading to this war, the so called negotiations in Oman were basically terms for an Iranian surrender, specifically the reduction of the Iranian missiles' range to something like 150 miles. Of course after the longer range Iranian missiles/drones would be destroyed then would come the Israeli attack. This was mentioned by Patrick Henningsen before this war began.

 

[Oracle]

The epstein coalition are using pakistan to lull iran into a false sense of optimism.

How many times are Iran going to be fooled into negotiations and ceasefires.

There absolutely is no intention to negotiate mark my word

Iran also need some time to breath.
In last days of war there was only missile attack once a day by Iran.

1000s died. You think 15000+ targets and only 1300 Iranian died?

Bunker busters also hit Iran hard.

Now they are again regaining strength. And KSA and Qatar on their side.

This time was also required by Iran

 

[Ali_Baba]

They did not. At least, that is not how Tasnim News is reporting it. China's position is very much that of the Iranians'.




China's emphasis on preserving Iran's sovereignty, security and legal rights in the Strait of Hormuz

Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lin Jian:
The current situation between war and peace has reached a critical level.
Now that a window has been opened to achieve peace, China supports the maintenance of the ceasefire, peace talks, the maintenance of sovereignty, security and legal rights of Iran as a country located along the Strait of Hormuz. The rights of this country must be respected and protected.
The freedom and security of shipping through the Strait of Hormuz must be guaranteed, China declares its readiness based on President Xi's proposed plan for peace and stability in the Middle East.

@TasnimNews

Right now - Iran does not need a lecture from the Chinese, it needs guns - lots of guns ...

 

[Meengla]

Something I am confident is that Pakistan has gained Iran's respect from this. By visiting Iran during a sensitive period shows that Pakistan is really willing to go the extra mile for Iran. This could spawn a new dawn where their relationship improves significantly compared to the worst during the 2024 conflict.

Right.
I am going as far to say that Iran is going to become Pakistan's strategic depth after this war ends and Iran starts to look at the geopolitics in a different way.

 

[ety]

Right.
I am going as far to say that Iran is going to become Pakistan's strategic depth after this war ends and Iran starts to look at the geopolitics in a different way.

They might still prefer Russia over Pakistan/China in terms of geopolitics. and military partnership.

 

[Meengla]

And this conflict involving many big, influentia globall players is giving Pakistan a rare but powerful opportunity to expand its influence,which Pakistan is doing boldly but smartly.

Pakistan is a Muslim country and deeply hostile to Israel. One would think a Hindu India with good relations with Israel, America, Russia, Iran and Arab countries would have taken the lead in peace-making. But Modi's public embrace of Israel during the recent Gaza war and the visit to Israel within days of this attack on Iran were historic blunders for which India is already paying the price, sulking in a corner. If only the Arab countries just start kicking out the 11 million Indian workers from the Arab countries and replace with Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and from other countries...

 

[Ibbi32]

Jis ko Iran se muhabbat hai wo Iran chala jae

Asim Munir went to Iran.

Asim munir will change his name to hassan and become a shia cleric fr

 

[Hayabusa]

Right.
I am going as far to say that Iran is going to become Pakistan's strategic depth after this war ends and Iran starts to look at the geopolitics in a different way.

Yes. That will be the ideal scenario.

If Pakistan complete the IP pipeline then that would be a great tailwind.

However, the limiting factor will always be Saudi Arabia, and to a certain extent UAE. As long as we are indebted to them, we will always be forced to abide by their rules.

 

[Meengla]

Pakistan really should have completed it's part of the IPI pipeline years ago when iran was asking it to, it would've served Pakistan (and Iran) very well today. Oh well!!

Pakistan is very vulnerable to American sanctions for which the Pakistanis can only blame themselves. The IPI Pipeline was an ambitious, sneaky idea which was stopped in its tracks once Uncle Sam made clear the repercussions.

 

[Meengla]

Bhai, one thing is for certain now after this Irani war………it’s always been Israel first.
These Zio oligarchs totally own the US!

36 US Senators just voted to stop arms sales to Israel. All Democrats and the Democratic strength in the Senate is close to 50. Do the math. During the recent Gaza war, around 19 voted for similar Resolution in the US Senate. All Democrats.
Israel does not 'totally' own the US and it is time people start paying attention to the US politics and vote intelligently.

 

[Musings]

36 US Senators just voted to stop arms sales to Israel. All Democrats and the Democratic strength in the Senate is close to 50. Do the math. During the recent Gaza war, around 19 voted for similar Resolution in the US Senate. All Democrats.
Israel does not 'totally' own the US and it is time people start paying attention to the US politics and vote intelligently.

I feel the tide is turning. Met an American last night. Vigorously against the war - why should we suffer medically and live in poor conditions and all our money go to Israel. No he said - enough is enough.
Netanyahu has burnt their patience...........

 

[Meengla]

So, the Chinese government has not yet agreed to a visit by Trump to Beijing. This matter remains subject to change!

A Pakistani analyst today saying China wants America to wrap up the Iran war before going to China. Otherwise, the American President is capable of waging this war and going to China at the same time. The analyst said the Xi-Trump meeting will be about long term global geopolitics of carving out the world into 'spheres'.

 

[Persian Gulf]

This is longer than previous estimates which said 2 weeks

 

[Flotilla]

A Pakistani analyst today saying China wants America to wrap up the Iran war before going to China. Otherwise, the American President is capable of waging this war and going to China at the same time. The analyst said the Xi-Trump meeting will be about long term global geopolitics of carving out the world into 'spheres'.

Good. I don't like the idea of being under two poles but whatever required to finish this war is good.

Putin must be jealous.

I just beg China to include any kind of arrangement over Palestine and Lebanon and even Syria. Even if those places are under the influence of EU and Turkey among others, China can pressure and fill the EU's void.

Anyway I don't expect too much. All this came because Trump's wanted to isolate China's energy routes. So don't trust the Greeks when they bring presents.

 

[Yasser76]

This is longer than previous estimates which said 2 weeks

Yeah, at some point Iran simply will not have enough storage space for unexported oil right?