Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Taimoor said:
Okay. May not be related but very odd timing.


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Fun fact : Some say sole creation of east timor had oil discovery to be captured by australia, nothing christian oppression😇..east timor largest oil exporter today is australia
 
TallarnDesertRaider said:
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He's a verifiable Biblical scholar
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When you elect a clown, expect a circus.
77 million people elected a clown in 'the most successful, best democracy of the world' in the 'most meritocratic nation of the world'. So sad to say that because America has been a pioneer in many things which benefits most of humanity.
"Democracy is the best revenge", to quote a famous Pakistani politician!
 
Meengla said:
Right.
I am going as far to say that Iran is going to become Pakistan's strategic depth after this war ends and Iran starts to look at the geopolitics in a different way.
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Hopefully.

But Blessing of Oil comes with the curse of arrogance and love of money. No matter they hide it under whatever cover, Religious, strategic or economics, all have inflated selfish ego. KSA, UAE, Kwait, Libya, Iraq, iran no matter who....

They only see poor begger Pakistan when they start getting licks, and their oil and economic relations leave them in troubles.
 
925boy said:
Moral high ground is irrelevant and a western double standard, because we are in the era of might is right. White countries use it, so everyone else ,including iran, is allowed to use their might too. Ur welcome.
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Hormuz was your last card , you played it and got trumped ....now , you will play by the playbook written by America.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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Iran is still exporting oil despite Trump’s blockade
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General Caine said they will begin stopping and seizing vessels in violation of the blockade.

They are doing to Iran what NATO has been doing to Russian sanctioned vessels.
 
Meengla said:
When you elect a clown, expect a circus.
77 million people elected a clown in 'the most successful, best democracy of the world' in the 'most meritocratic nation of the world'. So sad to say that because America has been a pioneer in many things which benefits most of humanity.
"Democracy is the best revenge", to quote a famous Pakistani politician!
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I dont agree about democracy exist in US. Firstly the lobby system is out of control tantamount to bribery and generally there is no accountability. If an elected leader say like in UK Tony Blair was elected there is no way to make them accountable and when you question it the answer is well the public will vote them out as if that is a punishment. In Tony Blair case and Bush they should be tried in court for leading illegal wars. If they lie or cheat etc they need to be punished
 
Yasser76 said:
Al jeezera reporting Munir now on his way straight to US after visiting Iran.

Obviously what he has discussed with Irans leadership and what he may chat to Trump about is considered do important it cannot be done by phone or by Dar but in person by Munir with both Trump and Iranians.

Something certainly up despite the messaging coming out of DC and Tehran....
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If true it means the deal is done , you may even see emperor Trump Gracing Islamabad with a fanfare to sign the peace ( surrender , some would insist ) treaty.
 
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It seems that U.S. and Iran do not want to meet in person until Major differences have been bridged. I think that is why we are seeing Pakistan going between US and Iran.

There is also the matter of security for Iranian delegation every time they travel. So in Iran’s eyes the next time they go to Pakistan there should already be a framework agreed to.

To me, Trump is owned by Bibi and the Zionists. If the war ends, Bibi’s corruption trial starts. Thus it’s in his interest for this war to continue. So these negotiations are either Bibi’s surrender terms or just a cover to prepare for a larger war.

Why would U.S. be asking random companies to turn their factories into World War arms production facilities?

I am very pessimistic on U.S. intentions. Smells like a trap.
 
Yasser76 said:
Yeah, at some point Iran simply will not have enough storage space for unexported oil right?
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this,
and ports are heavily used for other commodities as well, yes land routes can be used upto a certain level but cant fully replace under present circumstances.
 
Persian Gulf said:
well if General Caine said so …
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NATO is confiscating Russian tankers on open ocean routinely. A nation with an actual Air Force and Navy and 2000+ nukes.

You think US navy is afraid of taking some Iranian boats? Which they already did in Trumps first term?

Wouldn’t be so over confident. Iran won’t break the ceasefire if its ships start getting confiscated, it will just stop trying to get thru the blockade.
 

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