Kyussis
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Lets see how many Chinese ships U.S navy seizes!
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Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Meengla
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I presume Munir wanted to meet his family and brief the civilian/military leadership, and even the key players like the Chinese, while in Pakistan about the talks in Tehran as well as plans for his Washington trip. He may appear to be like some Saddam Hussain running everything but that is not the case in Pakistan. Never been like that. At the least, there are some senior military leaders always involved and informed in Pakistan.
Pakistan, after all, and for better or worse, is a 'security state' since its very foundation in 1947.
UndercoverJIX
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at this point fexibility is the key to ceasefire or to end of war.
I feel, Trump is not really interested in ending this war of choice, untill Iran agrees to his demands or destroyed.
Now its very difficult situation for Iran, can not accept all demands and can not defend against Air campaign.....
Yes, Iran can prolong this imposed war, but cost is extremely high........
Iran can destroy ME which is Muslim, unfortunately.
Iran can not reach USA, and Irael is heavily protected.
emotions aside, we need to look at things realistically and decide.
None of the Arab, Muslim oil rich country survived and stayed independent after American terrorism...
Wise choice will be to avoid this imposed war and do not let these terrorists destroy one of the last standing Muslim Power.
Take a step back, make alliances, stregthen eachother, kick out USA out of the region systematically...and deal with Israel and USA together ....InshaAllah
Having Nukes is not a surity, your alliances, pacts etc is....all does not need nukes, can compliment eachother........
Meengla
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Pakistan's brilliant former Foreign Minister Khursheed Kasuri's video. No English captions available but he says
- a new security setup in the Middle East is inevitable after this war. Americans have left the bases and hiding in hotels
- the Israeli attack on Qatar was a pivotal moment
- Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Oman are not the same some other GCC countries against Iran (he didn't want to name them but it is obvious UAE and Bahrain)
- Likely an alliance coming up with Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt
- a new security setup in the Middle East is inevitable after this war. Americans have left the bases and hiding in hotels
- the Israeli attack on Qatar was a pivotal moment
- Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Oman are not the same some other GCC countries against Iran (he didn't want to name them but it is obvious UAE and Bahrain)
- Likely an alliance coming up with Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt
Bharatah
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My friend, the US and Israel do not have air superiority over Iran; that's a myth that has already been debunked. The map of bombings in Iran proves that most of the bombings are in the western part of Iran because the planes can't enter Iranian territory, so they get close to the border and launch cruise missiles (which fly up to 800km) and return to their bases (and many of these bases have been destroyed by Iran, so some of these planes take off from Europe to bomb Iran and have to refuel along the way). They also hit Iran, just as Iran hits them, or as Ukraine hits Russia, using missiles and drones.
When the cruise missiles started running out, they had to penetrate further into Iranian territory with planes and helicopters, which resulted in 12 aircraft destroyed in 24 hours, a world record in modern warfare; before that, even 2 F-35s (stealth fighters) were hit.
NOTE: The pause in the war is to benefit the US/Israel , not Iran.This serves as an opportunity for them to try and regroup and attempt new strategies, since everything else has failed. The story about the soldier's rescue was just another hoax; it was a failed attempt to invade and steal nuclear material.
Abid123
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What a bunch of little pussi*s.
Ibbi32
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He’s going to farm causing wars then ending wars until he gets a nobel peace prize
Taimoor
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RocketLaw
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From Islamabad, a gentle voice emerged,
as if balm had been applied to wounds,
like a brother, you extended your hand,
Pakistan, you have won our hearts,
Thank you, Pakistan, thank you from the depths of our hearts,
You have lit the lamp of peace, thank you,
Thank you, Field Marshal!
Salutations to your leadership,
Thank you, Prime Minister!
For every step toward peace,
From Iran, we say,
You are the voice of peace, the light of humanity,
as if balm had been applied to wounds,
like a brother, you extended your hand,
Pakistan, you have won our hearts,
Thank you, Pakistan, thank you from the depths of our hearts,
You have lit the lamp of peace, thank you,
Thank you, Field Marshal!
Salutations to your leadership,
Thank you, Prime Minister!
For every step toward peace,
From Iran, we say,
You are the voice of peace, the light of humanity,
UndercoverJIX
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So, as per your understanding, what is Iran's strategy?????
How Iran is going to protect Civ, Mil and Energy Infra????? Only Missiles bases are under ground tunnels.....limited missiles.....for how long.
My main point is cost destuction of lives and Infrastructure,
Lets assumes, in 6 Months 90 % Infra is destroyed, but few Missiles bases survive....now what????
Do not need to repeat all the details over and over,
If Iran had good relations with rest of the Middle East, than it was going to be totally different ....but that is not the case////
Still have time to .
hussain0216
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Change is inevitable,
The Muslim world didn't go away, peoples go through periods of strength and weakness, these are natural cycles
When you are strong you conquer and dominate, when you are weak you are harmed and the weakest collapse
From incans to Mayans to aborigines and native Americans we can see people's who due to weakness were decimated
The Muslim world has gone through a period of weakness, but it still controls the vast majority of the land and territory that it conquered through the centuries and it has vast untapped resources and a population surging past 2 billion and is the youngest major population of all religious groups
Change is occurring and the time for the Muslim world to rise is coming, it's going to be a tumultuous rise but it will happen
Whats happening now is the basis
It's vital we preserve our faith and cultures and not allow our peoples to fall for western ideologies which have destroyed them
UndercoverJIX
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I understand all that, but Iran should not fall in this trap and continue this war....
Live to fight another day.
We have examples of other Muslim Oil rich countries which followed their egos, instead of long term strategic goals.
at this point, Iran and rest of the Middle Eastern states need to correct their course for future and final showdown.
Not the right time to sacrifice and self destruct. learning time for all Muslims.....
Cash gk
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What are update?
Taimoor
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You dont have much choice when attacked by a rabid dog, sho'ing away wont work. There are already voices raising concerns about how this pause is being used to rearm and resupply. Maybe they are waiting for George bush battle group to join, which had to take a long route via south Africa. You wont be sending all that without intentions of some action. Pakistan as a state, not the leadership, needs to be extremely careful here, as personal ambitions of few can lead to a path where our fingers might get burned. We are not stupid, we have means to watch and analysis the military build and make our own conclusions and let be known to American side.
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