Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakFactor]

China cannot openly support Iran.

Jews control almost all Western media, and the United States also has public opinion hegemony. If China openly supports Iran, Western media will definitely attribute the blame for blockading the strait and damaging the global economy to China.

This will give some politicians controlled by Israel an excuse to help the United States invade Iran.

You are correct; however, ultimately, China will be compelled to take action.

 

[Hayabusa]

No.

There are plenty of countries with their civilian uranium enrichment programs that are %10 and below. If Iran complies, Iran lost because the raison d'etre of their enrichment program is a nuclear weapon.

They are establishing their right to have to enrich. They were almost negotiating for zero before US illegal declaration of war.

No.

If Iran cannot financially support their proxies, or can only partially support, that is a loss. Here is the harsh reality, those proxies, however meager they are supported by Iran, can only serves as target practice for Western weapons development.

That will never happen because those proxies will eventually prop up as long as Israel continues behaving recklessly.

Mmmm...Not really...

If Iran cannot export Islam globally, there is no point for having the IRGC.

Islam will always be exported globally whether Iran is there or not. Islam is universal regardless of race, religion or language. Something you are unable to comprehend.

 

[Master Chief]

They are all important. Nothing happens in a vacuum. History is a continuum. Especially in that place, it is a 5000-year-old story. I have been to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Megiddo
Both eye-opening and humbling.

Have the inhabitants of the modern state of Israel had a DNA test yet? Results might also be eye-opening and humbling.

 

[Mobius]

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[东风夜放花千树]

I'm hoping the Senate changes hands in November.

I hope the world can return to peace, but this wish will not be realized within five years.

The current situation in the United States is that whether the Democrats or the Republicans are in power, they will continue to support or wage wars.

The Democrats support the war between Russia and Ukraine and Israel's inhumane actions.

The Republicans support the US-Iraq war and Israel's inhumane actions.

Now, under the control of these two parties, the United States is like a runaway race car, which will drive the American people into the hell of war.

There is something very strange that I hope you can help me explain.

The seats in the U.S. House of Representatives are: the Republicans have 220 seats, the Democrats have 215 seats. In the 100-seat Senate, the Republicans hold 53 seats, the Democrats hold 45 seats, and the remaining 2 seats are held by nonpartisan members leaning Democratic.

As of January 2025, the United States has at least 55 different eligible voting parties, including 238 state-level parties. In addition, there are more than 420 formally registered parties, with the two largest being the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

Is it reasonable for the Democrats and Republicans to monopolize all the seats in this situation?

 

[Mobius]

Rabid dog of a state. They'll exercise the Samson option if the US & Europe don't comply. Their missiles are already pointed at the US and Europe.

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[Irfan Baloch]

negotiations and peace talks were a ploy. On Israeli instructions, Americans are rejecting every proposal from Iran and making impossible demands they know Iran cant accept as a sovereign nation.

the invasion and attacks will start. I guess this time UAE and some other GCC countries will also participate.
because peace is specially bad news for Israel and UAE.

while Pakistani soldiers will be expected to protect the royal family in the name of Mecca Madina once the chaos starts. their best protection will be preventing Americans and Israelis from using Saudi soil and air against Iran.. but thats laughable expectation. they will see first hand their neighbor being bombed with help of fellow Muslim country and Pakistan is paid a hush money to look the ither way.

 

[Mobius]

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[东风夜放花千树]

The Americans will do to China in whatever in their power whenever they think they can get away. That's why China should build at at least 1500 nukes in deployable state and demonstrate such capability to the world, not totally concealing them to effectively deter American adventurism on Chinese interests. In the meantime, I don't think China should get into unnecessary war with US like many people like China to fight US in the Iran war.

The United States hopes that China will reduce its nuclear weapons. We have proposed to the United States that the U.S. and Russia should reduce first, and then China will join the agreement at the appropriate time.

Currently, the situation is that the United States is losing military hegemony, financial hegemony, technological hegemony, and discourse power. The U.S.'s weapons manufacturing capacity has been restricted.

Therefore, we are not in a hurry to have a conflict with the United States. If the U.S. attacks first, we will retaliate immediately at the first moment of their attack.

In fact, the United States cannot collapse too quickly. Let us not forget that the U.S. has planted a landmine of nearly 40 trillion dollars of debt. If the U.S. collapses like the Soviet Union, the dollar will depreciate significantly, and this debt will bankrupt many countries.

Since the United States attempted to invade China in 2016, we have begun to accelerate the abandonment of dollar debt. Currently, China's holdings of U.S. debt amount to 694.4 billion dollars.

Correspondingly, the amount of U.S. debt held by American allies has increased significantly. ...

"The dollar is our currency, but your problem" was said by U.S. Treasury Secretary John Connally in 1971, reflecting dollar hegemony and its impact on the global financial system.

The total U.S. national debt increased from about $329.3 billion in 1966 to about $37 trillion in 2025, rising further to $38.77 trillion in February 2026, and is expected to exceed $40 trillion in a few months.

U.S. debt is holding the global economy hostage, and all countries will pay the price for America's greed.

 

[Yasser76]

Isnt munir supposed to go to Washington today

If so we will not hear about it till he arrives I think, just like they kept the Tehran visit under wraps

 

[unconventional]

Yes.


No.

There are plenty of countries with their civilian uranium enrichment programs that are %10 and below. If Iran complies, Iran lost because the raison d'etre of their enrichment program is a nuclear weapon.


No.

If Iran cannot financially support their proxies, or can only partially support, that is a loss. Here is the harsh reality, those proxies, however meager they are supported by Iran, can only serves as target practice for Western weapons development.


Mmmm...Not really...

If Iran cannot export Islam globally, there is no point for having the IRGC.

Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon, and would gladly comply with enriching uranium for civilian purposes (at 3.67%). But it believes in its right to enrich uranium for civilian purposes, which the Trump government is even against.

There will be no deal between the US and Iran if there is no deal between Israel and Lebanon/Hezbollah. Iran does not want to be seen by Arab Shias/Hezbollah as betraying them. While the US/Israel want to separate Hezbollah from Iran, Iran wants to keep both linked. It is on Iran’s insistence that a 10 day ceasefire between Lebanon and Israel has been reached. Israel will again try to act as spoiler though.

 

[Yasser76]

Latest from AJ, also seems Islamabad police are cordoning off much of the capital this weekend. My guess is that US-Iran may well have agreed much on Nukes and Hormuz and we may be ironing out a "Grand Bargain" of how the long term US-Iran relationship may look like. Iran has mentioned it wants this and Trump would love a big economic win...

 

[Aziqbal]

negotiations and peace talks were a ploy. On Israeli instructions, Americans are rejecting every proposal from Iran and making impossible demands they know Iran cant accept as a sovereign nation.

the invasion and attacks will start. I guess this time UAE and some other GCC countries will also participate.
because peace is specially bad news for Israel and UAE.

while Pakistani soldiers will be expected to protect the royal family in the name of Mecca Madina once the chaos starts. their best protection will be preventing Americans and Israelis from using Saudi soil and air against Iran.. but thats laughable expectation. they will see first hand their neighbor being bombed with help of fellow Muslim country and Pakistan is paid a hush money to look the ither way.

I disagree

I don’t think the war will start

And for the first time Pakistan and Iran will come out the big winners

And for the first time inshallah Israel and USA will lose

 

[Flotilla]

No.

If Iran cannot financially support their proxies, or can only partially support, that is a loss. Here is the harsh reality, those proxies, however meager they are supported by Iran, can only serves as target practice for Western weapons development.

???. Without sanctions ironically Hizbollah and Houthies will receive much and much better support from Irán. From quantity of money to new technologies.

I think you don't understand how alone is Israel and US.

Not only Hamás still stands up. Even right now the biggest european flotilla is sailing to the Gaza strip. Let's see if those bastards supported by your country dare to attack or just humiliate the crews.

 

[hussain0216]

Its happening

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