Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

Has there ever been a worse set of diplomatic envoys than Witkoff, Kushner, and Vance? The first two are seemingly only there for the vibes, and Vance seemed to spend most of his time sleeping off the jet-lag and on the phone to Netanyahu during the last round.

They´re people from MAGA movements, bussiness people and devoted to their party. They´re neither skilled diplomats nor high informed people about all the History of Middle East.

They failed miserably in dealing with Russia and probably will fail again. Maybe JD Vance can act a bit with enough autonomy and authority to suggest Trump some realistic outcome.

How Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff see the world

The countries and actors may be different, but the general idea — that diplomacy is similar to a business deal — is the same.

www.politico.com

Let´s see. But if they just came for convincing iranians to just give up all nuclear program and deliver the enriched uranium stock, the deal is doomed.

 

[Immortals]

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[nervouscar]

Pakistan would do well to keep away from an entanglement with Israel, Pakistan can barely keep India at bay. Help the Arabs be able to better look after themselves, but Pakistan security issue will always be India and we should not lose focus of that.

Only a heavy weapons and huge numver of targets can ensure pakistan survivibility against many foes and possible victory.. by eliminating major concentrations of enemies assets
HHHHH POLICY NEED OF HOUR
GO HEAVY ON MISSILE SIZES
GO HUGE ON IMPACT ON EVERY STRIKE
GO HAZARDOUS ON EVERY EXPLOSIONS
GO HARD OF SELECTED TARGETS
HURRY!!

 

[Immortals]

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[Aryan_B]

Bro, if it comes to that it'll be an absolute bloodbath.
I do think its inevitable though, so Pakistan better start preparing pronto. Its time we move our focus away from India, and concentrate our resources to this threat.

we can do both. Use Saudi money to raise say another 350K troops and assets

 

[Immortals]

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Looks like Vance is going as well — conflicting reports initially if he would be leading the delegation

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Yeah there is no deal to be had. JD Vance not going is a big red flag in my opinion.

“Security reasons”, is a bullshit excuse.

 

[baqai]

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one more tech to capture and reverse engineer hehe

 

[Meengla]

Hence proven that despite all the fiscal leverage the gulfies have on us they can never get us to jeapordize our national security policy. So many people on this forum alone werre talking about how Pakistan would be forced to fight Iran by gulfies because they have us by a leash but we continuously prove them wrong.

Gulfies can't afford to lose Pakistan and Pakistan can't afford to lose Iran but Pakistan can afford to lose the Gulfies. It would be a big hit to lose the Gulfies due to the remittances but Pakistan would manage in some kind of Economic Martial Law.
Anyway, this is all hypothetical.

 

[F.O.X]

Hence proven that despite all the fiscal leverage the gulfies have on us they can never get us to jeapordize our national security policy. So many people on this forum alone werre talking about how Pakistan would be forced to fight Iran by gulfies because they have us by a leash but we continuously prove them wrong.

Pakistan does not compromise on its national security, Period.

 

[Immortals]

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Yeah there is no deal to be had. JD Vance not going is a big red flag in my opinion.

“Security reasons”, is a bullshit excuse.

And now the White House is saying Vance is going.

What a clown show. First he wasn’t, then they say he is, then Trump says he isn’t, now White House is saying Trump got it wrong

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[Meengla]

I have been saying this for ages. We need to target Israelis and then ask Hezbollah to double tap for us when their rescue teams get there. They have enough time to hide from our missiles, but not enough time to hide from Hezbollah attacks.

It was remarkable that Hezbollah and the Mosaic command setup of Iran were often able to coordinate their attacks on Israel prior to this ceasefire. I think Iranians have a fairly decent communication setup.

 

[Meengla]

And now the White House is saying Vance is going.
What a clown show. First he wasn’t, then they say he is, then Trump says he isn’t, now White House is saying Trump got it wrong

Vance has to go; no one likes or trusts the two Israeli agents (Kushner and Witkoff). Also, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Trump himself shows up on Wed or Thurs to sign if there is a final deal. The extraordinary security arrangements in Islamabad hint toward that.

 

[Meengla]

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Jackson Hinkle is targeting India a lot since the Gaza war started. Doesn't miss a chance! And he gets a lot of anti war and Muslim views because of that.

 

[Meengla]

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@ShapurII

Reading Farsi brings back childhood memory of reading Urdu books like the original text of 'Tilism e Hoshruba': It was in Urdu but went over my head a lot because lots of Farsi words. Urdu language is much watered down now to the point too many people use too many English words when easily recognizable Urdu words exist. But then literature is in decline globally. Heck, look at Trump's language!