Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

RocketLaw said:
How Pakistan neutralise Israeli plan

The latest article by former Saudi Intelligence Chief Prince Turki al-Faisal highlights why Riyadh resisted retaliating against Iran.

His piece, in reality, is an endorsement of Pakistan's stance. When Iran started sending missiles and drones across the Gulf after the war erupted on Feb. 28, there was a genuine threat of an all-out war involving Muslim countries.

That was when Pakistan stepped in. There was a meeting of foreign ministers from 12 Islamic countries in Riyadh on March 19. Gulf countries were furious. They wanted to hit back at Iran. There was so much anger that a representative of one country said that if Iran was nuked, they would not mind.

However, Pakistan attempted to calm the nerves. The meeting, which was supposed to last for a couple of hours, continued for several hours.

Pakistan tried to convince the Gulf countries that while Iran's strikes on its neighbours were condemnable, they must not forget the larger Israeli design. The Gulf foreign ministers were told that Israel wanted to ignite a larger conflict, pitting Muslim nations against each other.

Responding to Iran's strikes would only serve the Israeli agenda.
Most in the room understood Pakistan's position and eventually backed its mediation efforts.

The article by the former Saudi intelligence chief reflected Pakistan's view, which it presented during the March 19 meeting.

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Turkiye also played big part to ensure the Epstein coalition's attack on Iran and the Iranian response don't become as Israel hoped: A war between Iran and the GCC.
 
A senior Iranian technology industry figure told The New York Times that the blackout was bleeding roughly $80 million daily in losses. The figure is broadly in line with earlier estimates from Iranian business groups, including the Iran Chamber of Commerce, which has placed the economic damage from the shutdown at around $70 million to $80 million per day when both direct and indirect losses are included.
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Iran’s internet blackout is reportedly costing the country up to $80 million a day

A report about Iran losing more than 80 million dollars a day due to Internet shutdown
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Contrary to the delusional ramblings of grandpa MAGA, the JCPOA was not just a “Obama Deal.”

It was an agreement crafted by the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council, + Germany, and it was adopted via unanimous UN Security Council vote.

The EU also passed its own resolution backing it.

EVERYONE agreed it was a good deal.

Everyone that is EXCEPT ISRAEL.

So let’s be real clear on this, Trump didn’t blow up the JCPOA for any of our allies. He didn’t do it for us. He did it for Israel. Because they own him. Period.

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Eşbah said:
A senior Iranian technology industry figure told The New York Times that the blackout was bleeding roughly $80 million daily in losses. The figure is broadly in line with earlier estimates from Iranian business groups, including the Iran Chamber of Commerce, which has placed the economic damage from the shutdown at around $70 million to $80 million per day when both direct and indirect losses are included.
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But the rest of the world is suffering far worse. So if the current blockade over blockade continues for even 30 more days, Trump will most likely face a revolt within the USA and from the rest of the world.

And looking at the Iranian calculation, this is a price that they are willing to pay in order to end the blockade, the war, and sanctions against them.
 
Magi said:
That a faraway nation dictates what fraternal nations of Iran and Pakistan can buy and sell to each other is a travesty. We should have the most robust of trade, cultural and political exchanges. The only way to neuter sanctions is by ignoring them. Pakistan's national treasure Imran Khan rotting in jail indicates this isn't likely anytime ssoon.soon.
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100%, Pakistan should tell the Usa and Saudis, Iran is our neighbour and we will trade with them, other nations get a pass whilst Pakistan lacks the courage. We can get cheap electricity, gas, oil, build Gwadar, Chahabar with China, make this area in to next Dubai and improve our relations, trade for 100 years. Both nations should concentrate on trade with China, Cpec, belt road, Russia, Central Asia, ASEAN, Turkey, Egypt, Africa, Europe. Show the middle finger to the rest.
 
Danny Citrinowicz previously led the Iran branch in the IDF’s Military Intelligence Directorate. He argued on CNN that Israel does not actually want a deal with Iran:

“For Israel, no deal is better than a bad deal.”

Key Points:

▪️He believes Israel is pressuring Trump not to sign an agreement because a deal would block Israel from continuing or restarting attacks on Iran.

▪️Citrinowicz argues that Benjamin Netanyahu cannot openly confront Donald Trump the way he publicly fought Barack Obama over the JCPOA, meaning that if Trump ultimately signs a deal with Iran, Israel could find itself politically stuck with an agreement it opposes. Once Trump backs a deal, Israel would have far less ability to politically undermine it inside the United States or mobilize any kind of opposition in U.S. political circles in the future.

▪️ He says Trump faces a choice: either continue pursuing maximalist demands and escalation, or accept compromise and Iran’s right to enrich uranium under restrictions.

▪️ He repeatedly also says Iran will not capitulate, even under blockade and economic pressure. So the Israeli preference for maximalist demands like “zero enrichment” makes an agreement impossible.

▪️ Citrinowicz says the war failed strategically because Iran’s core nuclear red lines did not change after 39 days of fighting.


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Persian Gulf said:
From my perspective, relations between Iran and Pakistan had a fundamental reset in June 2025, and have been improving ever since then.

There are still many issues to resolve and areas for growth, but the trajectory is very clear.
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I want the same but from Pakistan government point of view if our annual growth is 4% and with Usa GCC sanctions it goes to 1% or - 1% we will be in big trouble. We have enemy 7x larger than us dreaming about a sanctioned Pakistan, they work hard 24 7 to destroy our economy. Pakistan cannot risk this no matter what. But it all depends on how the world changes, if Pakistan Iran, Chahabar, Gwadar, Cpec, one belt, China, Trade with central Asia, ASEAN, Africa, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Russia can improve our growth then maybe our government will take a tough stance.

No foreign power should be able to intervene in our region.
 
925boy said:
Hmm...all I'm getting from this information is that the modern sunni Islamic order has a disdain for shiite Iran and sees themselves as superior, sorry supremacist towards Iran, because if they didn't, why do the sunni countries have no sense of responsibility for their support of US 's (and even israel) attacks in Iran? without a supremacist ideology, sunni countries would not have allowed US attack Iran from their countries in the first place, or they would have taken responsibility and stopped it soon after it happened. So when the sunni countries say Iran is wrong, they really mean to say sunni Islam is superior to shiite islam. Hate brings destruction and that's what US ,Israel and the sunni countries in the gulf received recently for their hate of shiite Islam and Iran.
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Its only GCC, they are minority, so not sure why your pointing fingers at sunnis. GCC are Usa/Israeli allies.
 
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