Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RocketLaw]

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This angled news by CBS is misleading with input of the officials in knowledge of the process and facts:

The parking of few Iranian aircrafts at Nur Khan Airbase, has been blown out of proportion by certain detractors of regional and global peace.

After the ceasefire and during the first round of Islamabad Talks, numerous aircrafts, both from the US and Iran, came to Pakistan for conveyance of staff and security details and remained parked at Nur Khan Airbase

Few Iranian aircrafts and some staff members stayed back after the first round of talks, in anticipation of the second round

Although the talks have not resumed directly, Iranian Foreign Minister visited Islamabad twice after the first round and the security and administrative details left behind, enabled the logistics of these visits

After the first round of talks, American aircrafts and security teams were also flown in for the subsequent rounds but were relocated to regional US bases after few days

Pakistan, as an impartial and neutral mediator, has been providing logistic and administrative support to both sides to further the cause of peace

In this context, Pakistan has been absolutely transparent with both sides and has consistently taken both sides into confidence whenever any ambiguity has arisen; Pakistan shall continue to follow this policy

The Iranian aircrafts arrived in Pakistan and few remain parked, during the ceasefire, and not during active conflict. During the ceasefire, no Iranian aircrafts have been targeted even inside Iran by the US. Hence, parking of these aircrafts is in no way linked to any preservation, as insinuated by certain quarters of the media who appear to be driven by the spoilers rather than facts

Clearly, certain quarters want to push the region and the world to a fresh spate of violence and have therefore, created a story out of nothing

Unfazed, Pakistan remains determined to carry forward its sincere mediatory efforts and shall continue to play a constructive and active role in bringing the conflict to a negotiated settlement, in the interest of regional and global peace and security.

 

[925boy]

Still, its not good. Charging toll tax by Iran from nature made Strait is not in intrest of Pak.

Interest or privilege?

Tommorow, if relation with Iran goes bad then Iran will start charging toll tax from Pak. Strait of Hormuz is not man made, not entirely owned by Iran as Oman is there too. Basically Iran is charging ghunda tax or bhatta from others.

Might is right (at least in the current world order),so what Iran is doing with the SOH is actually fine and right.

 

[lightning f57]

And as expected
The faggot opens his mouth
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If they want to make more enemies they can go ahead. The quagmire will only get worse for them.

 

[Watandar]

I am skeptical of this article by Prince Turki. Seems their original plan to defang Iran using the Americans/Israelis failed and they have moved on to Plan B. The Saudis, like the rest of the GCC, host American bases, provide logistical support, share radar and intelligence data and airspace with the US and fund American campaigns all over the region and in Africa. They are no innocent lambs.

 

[atmi_bum]

Why do I think the UAE has something to do with this?

 

[r3alist]

I am skeptical of this article by Prince Turki. Seems their original plan to defang Iran using the Americans/Israelis failed and they have moved on to Plan B. The Saudis, like the rest of the GCC, host American bases, provide logistical support, share radar and intelligence data and airspace with the US and fund American campaigns all over the region and in Africa. They are no innocent lambs.

I suppose these are pre-existing arrangements, that continued during the war, the prince makes the distinction that the Saudis did not become active themselves.

 

[atmi_bum]

I am skeptical of this article by Prince Turki. Seems their original plan to defang Iran using the Americans/Israelis failed and they have moved on to Plan B. The Saudis, like the rest of the GCC, host American bases, provide logistical support, share radar and intelligence data and airspace with the US and fund American campaigns all over the region and in Africa. They are no innocent lambs.

This is typical Saudi behavior: let others do the heavy lifting even though they have the means, but not the ability to defend themselves. Pathetic.

 

[Hayabusa]

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I am actually glad Pakistan did this. They have their priorities clear.

USA will leave Pakistan high and dry again, just like in the 90s, but Iran is our permanent neighbour and here to stay.

Once again, we already have bad blood with 2 our of our 4 neighbours. We cannot afford another one on our western frontier.

 

[Watandar]

I suppose these are pre-existing arrangements, that continued during the war, the prince makes the distinction that the Saudis did not become active themselves.

Oh please. Prince Sultan airbase is from where ALL American air campaigns since the 1991 Persian Gulf war have been staged and directed, including this attack on Iran. If Saudis didnt want this war they could have denied their airspace and the use of Prince Sultan airbase. Entire GCC was on board with this war.

 

[925boy]

Of course, gotta spend that loot somewhere while the world gets by on scraps.

Remove credit and the dollar power and you find so quicky that most Americans don't have more money than the average Romanian. Russians will come ou wealthier than them.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

The United States uses Saudi military bases to invade Iran. When Iran attacks these bases, the United States and its allies condemn Iran for attacking the Gulf countries, including India.

India did not condemn the aggression of the Epstein alliance, but condemned Iran's attacks on the Gulf countries.

This despicable double standard is the main reason for the chaos in the world situation.

We need to acknowledge that the restraint of the Gulf countries has indeed prevented the escalation of war.

 

[925boy]

How do you know these are the protestors and not plain-clothed forces?
Both videos appear to be plain-clothed forces shooting at the protestors, not the other way around.

Your opinions on Iran make me know you are not actually loyal to Iran (you could even be some type of agent of a foreign country)and you are an undercover shahi who loves Pahlavi. If Iran trusted you, Iran would be taken over by US and Israel so quickly.

 

[FUB]

Your opinions on Iran make me know you are not actually loyal to Iran (you could even be some type of agent of a foreign country)and you are an undercover shahi who loves Pahlavi. If Iran trusted you, Iran would be taken over by US and Israel so quickly.

Israel has a fan club here. they have an official Hasbara team working diligently.

 

[PK781]

Oh please. Prince Sultan airbase is from where ALL American air campaigns since the 1991 Persian Gulf war have been staged and directed, including this attack on Iran. If Saudis didnt want this war they could have denied their airspace and the use of Prince Sultan airbase. Entire GCC was on board with this war.

what you say sure makes sense if we look at what was going on. But it could also be a great Deception. Who knows if the Saudi's were actually helpless in all this since they dont/cant control the americans from listening to them....just like how they allowed Doha to be struck by Israel....
Israel wants to give Iran the impression that entire gulf was against them, so that both iran and the gulf region wipe out each other so israel can rule the region

this is why there are cracks in the relationships between KSA and America.
Its been ongoing for a while, even before the war.

 

[Fallstuff]

Yes but the bigger issue for Trump is how to get something better looking for him which would not involve dozens or even hundreds or even thousands of body bags coming home to America. That would destroy Trump and his supine Republican stooges in the Congress.
I think at this point, I don't rule out an offramp based on the ongoing diplomacy. The other options could be:
1) Two more weeks of intense attacks to further degrade Iran; that's Netanyahu's Minimal Viable Product (MVP), to use a business term.
2) A staged tit for tat like what happened at the end of the June 2025 conflict.

Both of them would allow Americans to declare 'victory' and leave but both would eventually be an Iranian 'victory' and the Israelis know that though the Israelis would take option #1 as best. But option #1 would risk significant American casualties and #2 is something Iranians might not agree with--though they should as long as the Americans leave!

If you understand American football, Trump is sitting on 2nd and 20. For all practical purpose he can’t wait to get to 3rd and 30.
There is an underlying belief on the right wing side that Iranians are a bunch of goat herders , and Chinese are paper tigers.
It was the idea of the right wing that US needs to put its foot down in Middle East. I literally heard Maria Bartiromo on Fox News that US needs to put its foot on China’s throat.
In any event there is a price to pay for hubris. I don’t see how he gets out of this box he put himself in.
It is incredible that Trump fired John Bolton in his first term for promoting war in ME !!