Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khorasan Black Flags]

What we're facing is not a deal

But a very short-term calmative which will backfire very soon against Iran and axis of resistance

This possible deal is even worse than jpcoa

Our politicians should take their lessons

 

[Tom_Cruise]

This is a new type of "ceasefire " in which one can continue fighting

Made in Israel

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Two issues are moving closer to resolution

Iran moves away from “tolls” to ‘environmental fees’ for ships passing the Strait of Hormoz

The U.S. moves away from insisting Iran sends its stockpile of HEU to the USA, and signals it would accept Iran downblending the uranium to lower levels within Iran

That would likely require acknowledgement of the Strait being under Iranian control. I don't see the ROW allowing that to happen.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

That would likely require acknowledgement of the Strait being under Iranian control. I don't see the ROW allowing that to happen.

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You cannot change geography

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Is this Google translation correct?

Whether there is an agreement or not, whether there is war or not, Reza Pahlavi and his supporters were thrown into the most stinking part of the garbage dump in Iran's history. Forever.

 

[Garcia Sea]

As I have said time and again, Iran’s vulnerability lies not in its military capabilities but in the incompetence of politicians who do not understand the art of negotiation. By agreeing to a ceasefire, Iran suffered a complete defeat in the negotiations. It is impossible for mullahs, who are unaware of the harsh realities of society, to engage in tough negotiations with Westerners who wield Machiavellian tactics; Iran was defeated the moment it entered the negotiation stage. The fact that they remain unresponsive even as their own country is being bombed is proof of this. The mullahs will likely offer Trump any concession they can from this point forward.

 

[Flotilla]

This is a new type of "ceasefire " in which one can continue fighting

Irán must answer to keep deterrence. I am pretty sure in next hours an answer will come.

 

[hussain0216]

But many in here say zee jooz are the ones that order US around.

Israel: Were increasing our attacks on Lebanon


Trump/U.S government: Duuuuuhhhhh Ok Boss, whatever you say..


SolarWarden: Clearly we control Israel and tell them what to do

 

[SecularNationalist]

What we're facing is not a deal

But a very short-term calmative which will backfire very soon against Iran and axis of resistance

This possible deal is even worse than jpcoa

Our politicians should take their lessons

Well strikes on Iran happening again as we speak.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Hajj is about to conclude in 1-2 days time and there is no war at this time..
Lots of fake news media out there trying their best to show something happening
zionist media cant be trusted

Then u got the FIFA until end of July.....so be wise......

The USA may be thinking that it can have "another short" conflict between the end of Hajj, and the start of the world cup, but if Iran is attacked again, it should not agree to a ceasefire again and continue its operations over the world cup period. It needs to demonstrate that it is not a passive entity to be "attacked" when Israel/USA decide to do so, but that it also has agency. To date, that agency has been limited and that has affected Iran's deterrence.

 

[Meengla]

Nothing changes here; the moderators need to keep an eye on this, because the same version of the CETCOM profile (known for various lies, manipulations, and narratives) has already been posted here by more than 15 different users, all on the same subject. This is indoctrination with a narrative that is obviously a desinformation.

You are worried about a thread in an obscure Pakistani forum when many credible global media are reporting this?!
We will find out if this is escalation or not before long. But an attack did happen.

 

[Lulldapull]

 

[mangekyo]

The USA may be thinking that it can have "another short" conflict between the end of Hajj, and the start of the world cup, but if Iran is attacked again, it should not agree to a ceasefire again and continue its operations over the world cup period. It needs to demonstrate that it is not a passive entity to be "attacked" when Israel/USA decide to do so, but that it also has agency. To date, that agency has been limited and that has affected Iran's deterrence.

This stinks of Zionist interference. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like any lasting deal can be made with the Americans. Their tongues and noses are too deep inside the asshol*es of the chosen people. They seem to have acquired a taste for it and they aren’t going to give up their favorite candy..

 

[mangekyo]

As I have said time and again, Iran’s vulnerability lies not in its military capabilities but in the incompetence of politicians who do not understand the art of negotiation. By agreeing to a ceasefire, Iran suffered a complete defeat in the negotiations. It is impossible for mullahs, who are unaware of the harsh realities of society, to engage in tough negotiations with Westerners who wield Machiavellian tactics; Iran was defeated the moment it entered the negotiation stage. The fact that they remain unresponsive even as their own country is being bombed is proof of this. The mullahs will likely offer Trump any concession they can from this point forward.

The factions of power within Iran are polar opposites. One undoes the others work. What Iran lacks and has been lacking for a long time is a strong unifying leader who can control the factions and keep us going in one direction. This endless zigzagging needs to stop.