Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Eşbah]

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it looks like Iran will wait to be attacked, again

I highly doubt that these secret oil shipments accompanied and organised by the US Navy are included in official data.

The truth is that China is ruining Iran's strategy.

Chinese oil imports have decreased to levels seen during the COVID lockdown period. The significant drop in demand from China has resulted in a massive surplus of oil flooding the markets.

Additionally, Chinese reserves are nearly at capacity. They have exhausted their storage space for surplus oil and gas.

New data shows China came into the Iran war with over 3x the strategic oil reserves of the US

New data from the US government released this week shows just how aggressively China added to its oil reserves ahead of the war in Iran.

finance.yahoo.com

China’s Oil Imports Plummet to Eight-Year Low | OilPrice.com

China’s sharp cut in crude imports is easing pressure on oil prices, but its inventory cushion will eventually need replenishing.

oilprice.com

@ShapurII @Immortals @Ali_Baba

 

[RescueRanger]

Do you suspect the Apache engagement was USA merely testing Iran's responsiveness and readiness for what now appears to be looming as a more substantial operation?

I doubt the US would risk personnel for any such activity - they could have easily used drones which are a dime a dozen to them.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I highly doubt that these secret oil shipments accompanied and organised by the US Navy are included in official data.

The truth is that China is ruining Iran's strategy.

Chinese oil imports have decreased to levels seen during the COVID lockdown period. The significant drop in demand from China has resulted in a massive surplus of oil flooding the markets.

Additionally, Chinese reserves are nearly at capacity. They have exhausted their storage space for surplus oil and gas.

New data shows China came into the Iran war with over 3x the strategic oil reserves of the US

New data from the US government released this week shows just how aggressively China added to its oil reserves ahead of the war in Iran.

finance.yahoo.com

China’s Oil Imports Plummet to Eight-Year Low | OilPrice.com

China’s sharp cut in crude imports is easing pressure on oil prices, but its inventory cushion will eventually need replenishing.

oilprice.com

@ShapurII @Immortals @Ali_Baba

I put a similar post in the US Related thread. I doubt these tankers went out in the dead of night. Iran was likely aware and more likely there was some backroom deal where their cigar smokers met with ours to work out the details. There is no way that many vessels transited the Strait without someone being aware of it.

 

[Shags101]

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I expect they will be yelling "WOLVERINES!!" too?

i know we are making a red dawn reference love the movie even if cheesy as hell to most people but I can actually see pinpoint attacks by miniature drones in the future be it from foreign forces or criminal in nature worlds evoking when you can buy this over the shelf and smuggling people through Mexico or Canada is still fairly easy

 

[Kharral]

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Why USA is hitting Indian tankers?

Because India is a superpower & USA is atankwadi.

 

[RescueRanger]

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Why USA is hitting Indian tankers?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

i know we are making a red dawn reference love the movie even if cheesy as hell to most people but I can actually see pinpoint attacks by miniature drones in the future be it from foreign forces or criminal in nature worlds evoking when you can buy this over the shelf and smuggling people through Mexico or Canada is still fairly easy

I would think the electronic defenses around the WH would prevent any such FPV attack. Unless those mythical "American Freedom Fighters" are smart enough to procure drones operated via fiber optic cable.

 

[Master Chief]

I doubt the US would risk personnel for any such activity - they could have easily used drones which are a dime a dozen to them.

Sorry I phrased the question poorly. Certainly US would not intentionally throw an Apache at Iran for this purpose.

I meant, is the whole American sequence of activity AFTER the Apache downing a deliberate "test" of Iranian responsiveness for what will actually be a larger attack?

I suspect Iran underplayed its hand in this specific engagement and this may have emboldened Trump to act more aggressively in the coming days.

 

[925boy]

But to do this the very next day after another "ceasefire" with Israel means the Iranians have realized the US/Israel have put them in a box with the blockade and constant hit and run attacks. The Trump/Netanyahu calculation is that eventually Iran will bleed out in a few months. So I think the Iranians are now actively provoking and attacking in turn, trying to break this box

Ok

. It's a risky strategy.

No it's not. What's actually risky AF is Iran doing nothing while US and Israel try to slow bleed Iran to a failed state situation.

 

[RescueRanger]

Sorry I phrased the question poorly. Certainly US would not intentionally throw an Apache at Iran for this purpose.

I meant, is the whole American sequence of activity AFTER the Apache downing a deliberate "test" of Iranian responsiveness for what will actually be a larger attack?

I suspect Iran underplayed its hand in this specific engagement and this may have emboldened Trump to act more aggressively in the coming days.

The US has been probing Iranian defenses for some time now.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Sorry I phrased the question poorly. Certainly US would not intentionally throw an Apache at Iran for this purpose.

I meant, is the whole American sequence of activity AFTER the Apache downing a deliberate "test" of Iranian responsiveness for what will actually be a larger attack?

I suspect Iran underplayed its hand in this specific engagement and this may have emboldened Trump to act more aggressively in the coming days.

The President did say "proportionate response". He neglected to define "proportionate".

Now we know.

 

[925boy]

USA paid $3 billion to Iran to not attack Israel money was given by UAE and Qatar on behalf of United States

Iran taking that $3bn and actually not hitting Israel when it needs to = incredible foolishness that Iran will regret.

Just my opinion.

 

[Shags101]

Did Modi say something to annoy Daddy?

I would think the electronic defenses around the WH would prevent any such FPV attack. Unless those mythical "American Freedom Fighters" are smart enough to procure drones operated via fiber optic cable.

it’s actually super easy as hell to purchase it online guarantee in the future they will make it harder to purchase but like you said there’s multiple counter measures that no one knows about going on in the White House it’s not as easy as it is in our imagination

 

[Persian Gulf]

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I highly doubt that these secret oil shipments accompanied and organised by the US Navy are included in official data.

The truth is that China is ruining Iran's strategy.

Chinese oil imports have decreased to levels seen during the COVID lockdown period. The significant drop in demand from China has resulted in a massive surplus of oil flooding the markets.

Additionally, Chinese reserves are nearly at capacity. They have exhausted their storage space for surplus oil and gas.

New data shows China came into the Iran war with over 3x the strategic oil reserves of the US

New data from the US government released this week shows just how aggressively China added to its oil reserves ahead of the war in Iran.

finance.yahoo.com

China’s Oil Imports Plummet to Eight-Year Low | OilPrice.com

China’s sharp cut in crude imports is easing pressure on oil prices, but its inventory cushion will eventually need replenishing.

oilprice.com

@ShapurII @Immortals @Ali_Baba

we know it's not included in the official statistics, that poster was showing that the amount claimed by Trump equals the amount usually exported by Iran during the war

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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