Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[HAIDER]

People, in general, have lost the art of connecting the dots. And so many Iranians in this thread are in a strange, inexplicable constant breast beating mode despite the evidence to the contrary.

A good read, art of signing treaty ..

https://www.irssh.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/25_IRSSH-284-V3N1.131231716.pdf

 

[HAIDER]

I’m confused. Is no nuclear enrichment a part of the deal or not?

Limited, only one facility allowed not multiple facilities. more to come ...

 

[mangekyo]

Limited, only one facility allowed not multiple facilities. more to come ...

That’s a major concession

 

[Garcia Sea]

This is even worse than I expected,it’s a clear-cut surrender document. Iran will completely abandon uranium enrichment. And it will release SOH without any compensation. If Iran accepts this, it’s finished for good. Trump will continue to attack Iranian tankers, citing violations of sanctions laws and procedural irregularities, and the naval blockade will likely never be lifted. He will continue to bomb Iran on a daily basis, claiming it is an expression of “affection.” This is a complete victory for the reformists who have long sought to dismantle Iran and sell it off to the United States.

 

[mangekyo]

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June 13, 2026 - latest update

Is he threatening with a nuclear strike with the last line?

 

[925boy]

Problem is Iranian Offensive arm significantly under-performed than was actually expected.
TP -1 & 2 failed to build deterrence despite firing hundreds of ballistic missiles and literally exposed Iran for infiltrations and now here we're.

But this Iranian "underperformance "in TP1 and TP2 you reference ended up tricking US and Israel into a false sense of military confidence against Iran, which led them to initiate this latest round of war against Iran, which ended in their biggest military disaster in modern times. US and Israel grossly and unferestolated Iran's military potential and determination, and it backfired, big time.

If Iran was successful in building the deterrence in initial counters, Trump wouldn't have dared to launch a lengthy compaign.

But Trump fell for Iran's trap, and Iran succeeded in giving US a big military surprise, in front of the world, and also exposed that US vassals have no true protection from US , which is also a signal that the US empire's end is visible and in progress

 

[925boy]

Only Non-iranians with no shit in fight are actually happy about ending with Iranian Victory and they are convincing Iranians that "look ! you have absolutely smacked Trump into submission"

Um..stubborn Sandhu, that's called being objective. If US spanked Iran, those same non Iranians would have said so too.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[925boy]

Zero chance of that.
You see: When the ceasefire was announced in early April and I think the botched Isfahan Rescue Raid had something to do with that, it was obvious to me at least that the Americans had realized they had to get out of this war.

I agree US wants to exit the war, but that doesn't mean US doesn't also want to exit the consequences of its failed war by manipulating the terms or/and execution of the agreement it signs with Iran to end the war formally.

 

[VCheng]

This is even worse than I expected,it’s a clear-cut surrender document.

Eh? What document is this? Thus far, there has been no final, signed agreement to end the war made known. We should wait without any speculation, which is only useless.

 

[EugeneP]

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June 13, 2026 - latest update

Sounds a bit too-good- to- be true, even to untrained eyes. I will chalk it up to another bluff.