Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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BananaRepublic
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Iran doesn’t have the hardware to hurt Israel directly.
That’s due to Iran’s puny defence budget.
Iran’s strategy is to hit the Zio poodles until they bark and bite the zios loud and painfully
Watandar
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Boot polish culture on full display. Embarrassing.
Falcon29
Elite Member
Look at post down below. Lebanese state government is made up partially of Hezbollah. They helped get Nov 2024 ceasefire deal. They're trying to get the same deal again. It is realistic when leveraged with the regional dynamic equation. Unless Israeli government is entirely irrational and breaks off from Trump administration to do their own adventures which is unlikely.
It's mostly for show. US is building a base in southern Israel. And continues to supply Israel with munitions. There isn't a fall out between US and Israel.
Shags101
Trusted Member
So your calling for open civil war which would be what Israel wants let’s not please
Aziqbal
Elite Member
I think a combination of Khorramshahr-4 with 80 submunitions could put this site out of order
10 such missiles would land 800 bombs on this site each bomb weighing 25kg
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
If only, bro!
Falcon29
Elite Member
Last time this happened Trump supposedly scolded Netanyahu but then attacked Iran for 'dragging their feet' in negotiations.
This is likely coordinated to separate Lebanon from deal with Iran and then potentially have Israel potentially expand its operations in Lebanon and Gaza.
It's another last second sabotage which may be part of a longer term effort of regime change or getting Iran to drop allies in region and give up enriched uranium + freeze nuclear program.
US differs with Israel on timing and US has to ensure there are breaks in between for global economic relief, gas prices and markets. Israel on other hand prefers to be at war 24/7 and gets US/EU persistent aid handouts to stay afloat economically and Netanyahu wants to avoid jail time so Israel is not interested in any breaks on all fronts. It will support a break in Iran but not in Lebanon or Gaza.
This is likely coordinated to separate Lebanon from deal with Iran and then potentially have Israel potentially expand its operations in Lebanon and Gaza.
It's another last second sabotage which may be part of a longer term effort of regime change or getting Iran to drop allies in region and give up enriched uranium + freeze nuclear program.
US differs with Israel on timing and US has to ensure there are breaks in between for global economic relief, gas prices and markets. Israel on other hand prefers to be at war 24/7 and gets US/EU persistent aid handouts to stay afloat economically and Netanyahu wants to avoid jail time so Israel is not interested in any breaks on all fronts. It will support a break in Iran but not in Lebanon or Gaza.
unconventional
Registered Member
Everyone knew the day Hezbollah stepped into the battlefield in solidarity with Gaza after October 07, 2023 that Israel would look to occupy southern Lebanon. Even if Hezbollah were to disarm, I don’t think Israel would get rid of its occupation of southern Lebanon.
While Hezbollah inflicting casualties on IDF soldiers is noteworthy, but a successful strategy for Hezbollah would have been not to let the IDF advance into southern Lebanon (as they did for many months post October 07, 2023).
This strategy of inflicting casualties on your enemy on your own terrain unfortunately is not a winning strategy in the long run. The IDF took many casualties in Gaza as well when they first advanced there, but eventually weakened Hamas. This is similar to what they’ll be looking to do to Hezbollah as well in Lebanon.
If the Lebanese Army was able to get Israeli forces out of Lebanon, and committed to defending every inch of Lebanon from Israeli strikes; I don’t think there would have been a need for Hezbollah to be at the frontlines.
While Hezbollah inflicting casualties on IDF soldiers is noteworthy, but a successful strategy for Hezbollah would have been not to let the IDF advance into southern Lebanon (as they did for many months post October 07, 2023).
This strategy of inflicting casualties on your enemy on your own terrain unfortunately is not a winning strategy in the long run. The IDF took many casualties in Gaza as well when they first advanced there, but eventually weakened Hamas. This is similar to what they’ll be looking to do to Hezbollah as well in Lebanon.
If the Lebanese Army was able to get Israeli forces out of Lebanon, and committed to defending every inch of Lebanon from Israeli strikes; I don’t think there would have been a need for Hezbollah to be at the frontlines.
unconventional
Registered Member
If the Lebanon Army and government cannot commit to defending every inch of Lebanon from Israeli attacks, they should come out in the open and say they are subservient to the Israelis and would prefer to live under their thumb, rather than having any dignity of standing up for themselves.
Hassan Al-Somal
Elite Member
Don't get excited every time Trump berates Netanyahu.
Trump understands there is a growing American audience that is tired of foreign wars, foreign commitments, and being told everyone else's interests come before their own. Publicly creating distance from Netanyahu plays well with that crowd.
But the U.S. Israel relationship is far bigger than either man. It's rooted in decades of political, military, intelligence and institutional alignment.
The question isn't whether Trump criticises Netanyahu.
The question is whether U.S. policy towards Israel fundamentally changes.
Until then, treat these public spats for what they are: political theatre for a domestic audience increasingly frustrated with the status quo.
Iran will respond to Israel at some point for attacking Beirut, and guess what? The U.S. will help Israel attack Iran back.
Another round of confrontation is very much on the horizon.
Trump understands there is a growing American audience that is tired of foreign wars, foreign commitments, and being told everyone else's interests come before their own. Publicly creating distance from Netanyahu plays well with that crowd.
But the U.S. Israel relationship is far bigger than either man. It's rooted in decades of political, military, intelligence and institutional alignment.
The question isn't whether Trump criticises Netanyahu.
The question is whether U.S. policy towards Israel fundamentally changes.
Until then, treat these public spats for what they are: political theatre for a domestic audience increasingly frustrated with the status quo.
Iran will respond to Israel at some point for attacking Beirut, and guess what? The U.S. will help Israel attack Iran back.
Another round of confrontation is very much on the horizon.
VCheng
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
That cannot happen in isolation. It can only be made possible if Iran makes changes its policies as well. As long as Iran regards USA as a great evil to be destroyed, it cannot expect American people to support it over Israel.
ShotErrorKh
Registered Member
Im predicting missile strike -> Immediate signing of deal right after -> both parties appear strong
