Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

I am happy to hear that this war is coming to an end, the people of Iran have demonstrated their strength and resolve through this conflict.

I hope that both Iran and USA have learnt, that they can and should start talking to each other directly on their relationship. While, there was not much common talking in this round, hopefully it should not be lost on either party that they can relay to each other their concerns and objectives and come to an agreement.

If Iran can get financial, economic and oil sanctions removed, then its economy will start to grow again, this has the potential for the Iranian and Pakistani economy to grow also as they are neighbors and the sanctions stopped a lot of normal and natural economic activity.

I am not sure how the next phase of talks will be structured and how much Pakistan will, or will not play a part relative to Qatar and others. But, Pakistan has achieved all of its strategic goals and outcomes with the MOU so regardless, Pakistan can be happy with where they are, regardless of the next steps or involvement.

Hope the next set of talks can successfully conclude and that the USA can enforce its part of the agreement on "its allies".

 

[Watandar]

What is known is that Trump is desperate for a ‘deal’ while the Iranian’s are quite happy to drag it out and humiliate him some more. Also known is that Trumps biggest ‘victory’ from this ‘deal’ will be that he opened the Hormuz, which was open before he started ie achieved jack.
Given that the US has clearly no appetite for further military action, will they ever do that again given the Hormuz, GCC implications which are now well established? Based on this and the fact that so many credible / independent military analysts are concluding that the US lost, I would not suggest that this is a deal of equals. Iran has the upper hand and the US is desperate for a face saving off ramp. No way on earth Trump would have started this if he’d got enough brains to know he’d end up where he is today.

I expect the US/Israel and the GCC to go back to the drawing board and come up with new attack vectors for a future Iran war. It will take them another 10 to 15 years I estimate to fully neuter the current problems of defense against Iranian missile/drones and alternatives to Strait of Hormuz.

In the meantime I expect them to go quiet for now and then slowly resume their campaign of subterfuge against Iran involving propaganda, internal insurgencies/assassinations and economic damage.

The Israelis are the greatest danger as their doctrine is eternal offense, domination and annihilation of any perceived challenger. Those wackos may start some new attack even next year and seek to once again drag the US/GCC into it.

I also don't believe every problem in the world has military solutions so Iranians need to be smart and use all the tools of statecraft, not just military.

 

[lightning f57]

I am happy to hear that this war is coming to an end, the people of Iran have demonstrated their strength and resolve through this conflict.

I hope that both Iran and USA have learnt, that they can and should start talking to each other directly on their relationship. While, there was not much common talking in this round, hopefully it should not be lost on either party that they can relay to each other their concerns and objectives and come to an agreement.

If Iran can get financial, economic and oil sanctions removed, then its economy will start to grow again, this has the potential for the Iranian and Pakistani economy to grow also as they are neighbors and the sanctions stopped a lot of normal and natural economic activity.

I am not sure how the next phase of talks will be structured and how much Pakistan will, or will not play a part relative to Qatar and others. But, Pakistan has achieved all of its strategic goals and outcomes with the MOU so regardless, Pakistan can be happy with where they are, regardless of the next steps or involvement.

Hope the next set of talks can successfully conclude and that the USA can enforce its part of the agreement on "its allies".

Imagine Iran and US trading openly both countries would benefit monumentally plus the neighbouring countries like Pak.

 

[Kyussis]

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U.S media is owned by Zionists, Lock, stock and barrel. Why would they out themselves?

 

[BananaRepublic]

Pretty strange for a person with education and knowledge like this Indian retired Airforce officer to say that Pakistan is an American 'trojan horse' to lure Iran into a Deal so that later the Americans can bomb the hell out of Iran!
Looks like India has plenty of General Bakshis with free time and cowdung brains in their military retired officials.

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Have these buggers totally lost any semblance of self respect!!??

Did they have any to begin with?

Looks like India has completely fallen out with USA.

They were giddy when they thought they could manipulate Trump to bludgeon Pakistan - the way Israel managed to do with Iran.

Pakistan completely outmanoeuvred India!

India’s chanakya DNA always manages to punch itself in the face.

Who needs enemies when you have Chanakya DNA?

 

[hasssanali8998]

India has completely fallen out with USA.

they will be back together
us needs jeets to die fighting chinese

 

[BananaRepublic]

Removing a State is not a easy task specially a entity like Israel, we often overlook the aspect that Allah has told via Rasool Allah that what is too come so I don't think Israel is going anywhere, but for the time being they can hold peace, the grand creators plans will work and will always take precedent over whatever we humans wants regardless of how our hearts cry for all the innocent death in the region.

That’s true for a normal state.

Israel is different because it’s full of opportunists and religious nut jobs.

For Jews israel is not their motherland - it is to them what Rome is to Catholics.

If the fighting got serious - they would flee - leaving the Palestinians as the majority.

The majority can do whatever they want.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The Taliban were so backward that they were living in the Stone Age. When the US started bombing them in 2001, they said, "Oh look, an upgrade."

Robin Williams

But you wouldn't talk about the fact that it is you paying extra at the pump... it is your groceries and utilities that are more expensive. Let Iranians rue that American attack was an upgrade or not...
But where you stand it is clearly a downgrade!

 

[Mobius]

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[pakistanitarzan]

Israel is that spoiled son that even the father (USA) is no longer able to control. This deal looks like its the biggest accomplishment of entire Donald Trumps life.

 

[tsunset]

If Pahlavi deportation to Iran is not included in the future deal then this is a total humiliation and surrender from Iran

 

[2ndstrike]

Any info on the finals terms of Iran's HEU,LEU, enrichment rights, compensation for Iran's civilian casualties and damaged properties?

 

[VCheng]

Any info on the finals terms of Iran's HEU,LEU, enrichment rights, compensation for Iran's civilian casualties and damaged properties?

Not yet. Many of these topics are to still be negotiated in the next 60 days after the signing this Friday.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

But you wouldn't talk about the fact that it is you paying extra at the pump... it is your groceries and utilities that are more expensive. Let Iranians rue that American attack was an upgrade or not...
But where you stand it is clearly a downgrade!

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The world marches on...

 

[hussain0216]

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