Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakAl]

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[maxpane]

Please don't insult pigs by calling them israelis.

sorry my mistake. they are worse than any thing we can imagine

 

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English Translation:
Meeting of the Pakistani Army Chief with the President;

Unity of the Islamic world is one of the most essential requirements of today's world.
Forming a powerful bloc of the Islamic world is a move towards solidarity.
Relations between Iran and Pakistan will witness fundamental transformation in all areas from today onwards.

 

[Watandar]

Both the opening of the strait and lifting of the Iranian oil sanctions overwhelmingly serve US interests, not Iran's. Iran gets some money for exporting oil at the cost of giving up its enormous leverage. It took months to bring global inventory levels down and now Iran itself is helping replenish them. There was a news headline that Iran actually exported oil to the US. Might as well donate drones and missiles to the US military while they are at it.

And two months of passages through the Hormuz without fees? Why did Iran agree to this? Now Trump says US will charge tolls after the 60 days. What happened to cementing control over the strait? All that for vague promises of $300 billion.

Iran will never see that $300 billion.

Combined with Khamenei's statement it looks like a coup happened in Iran. Trump wasn't kidding when he said regime change took place.

You create leverage to use it, not create leverage endlessly for the sake of just creating leverage. Do you realize the possibility that the US and Iran could be on the road for rapprochement and what a strategic setback for Israel that could be ?

A US that has excellent or good enough relations with Turkey, GCC, Pakistan and Iran in the Mideast has no use for Israel or India.

Iran v whole planet or Iran v Mideast doesn't work. Last 40 years is proof.

 

[hussain0216]

Honestly we played a blinder but at the same time I think we partly benefit from some disasterous missteps by India

On paper India should have played the role of mediator. Large importer of oil/LNG, biggest navy in the region by far, US strategic ally, and investor in Iran's Chahbar port. They f**ked it all up massively

1) Pissing off Trump after May 7th last year
2) Spying on the Qatari sub programme for Israel
3) Visiting Israel 2 days prior to attack and all the "Motherland" "Fatherland" BS
4) Siding so closely with UAE

A 12 year old could have been more deft at diplomacy here. All of the above managed to piss off the US, Iranians, Saudis and Qataris all at once. That actually takes some doing.

Amazed Jaishanker still has a job but guess Modi wants to keep him close by as he is a potential rival for BJP Leadership

Not to mention all the endless hindutva bullshit and simping for Zionists and white supremacists for years

They put themselves into this position, they are just to stupid to see it

 

[maxpane]

never in my life i imagined that israel is in corner in us foreign policy of middle east . now pigs can fly .

 

[PakAl]

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[SecularNationalist]

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Dr Muhammad Allama Iqbal has a big fan following in Iran. Iqbal was fluent in Persian and wrote lots of poetry in Persian.

 

[PK781]

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6. officer in charge is absent, plz kindly come again
7. if network is down/slow, pls visit another time
8. Chai Pani required, cash is accepted
9. File move charges are extra per room, per person, per officer
10. family verification may b necesary, old docs required
11. Pls bring grandparents alongwith next time for verification
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[vmro]

You create leverage to use it, not create leverage endlessly for the sake of just creating leverage. Do you realize the possibility that the US and Iran could be on the road for rapprochement and what a strategic setback for Israel that could be ?

A US that has excellent or good enough relations with Turkey, GCC and Iran in the Mideast has no use for Israel.

Iran v whole planet or Iran v Mideast doesn't work. Last 40 years is proof.

Yes, and I also can't understand his statement "Iran gets some money for exporting oil..." like something minor event, but in reality, Iran needs that money, lifting sanctions is decades long goal...

Iran is achieving all that without being loser or semi-colony, like some of their neighbour states...Or vast majority of the states in the world, if we are honest...

'Magi' should be associated as pro-Iranian username, except for the Pahlavists...

Haters are hating agreement, it's obvious...

 

[PakistanLVR]

People can be pessimistic and say this is ummah chummah talk going on - basically talk no action. But i think longer term this can bare fruit when conditions are right.

Pakistan also makes a very strong glue for the Muslim world, its strong military, non interference with other Muslim nations, foreign policy always pushing for brotherly relations and stopping conflicts, large population which is raw muscle to get stuff done, strategic location and potential put it in a good position.

Fix the house and the neighbours especially the Muslim world will be benefit hugely.

I’ve only see Hindus (Indians) and atheistic Pakistanis use the “ummah Chummah” as a derogatory term for Muslims. There’s a growing size of the Gen Z who are highly anti-Islamic and atheistic that think Islam has held Pakistan back from becoming a wealthier nation. They take their anger out on Muslims and Islam.

Indians hate Islam and Muslims and wish to Hindu-ize South Asia so they can then focus on outward expansion which is currently being blocked by an Islamic Pakistan.

The WoT turned many urbanites into raging atheists and anti-Islam due to the suicide bombings.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

never in my life i imagined that israel is in corner in us foreign policy of middle east . now pigs can fly .

Iran with $2-3 trillion GDP is huge market for American goods and services. Israel is zionist lobby project that have no benefit apart from one way traffic of USA tax payers.

Iran without nukes is good enough deal for USA. They no longer care about absolute security of Israel after getting humiliated by Iran. I suppose USA had to try once to change regime.

 

[SecularNationalist]

6. officer in charge is absent, plz kindly come again
7. if network is down/slow, pls visit another time
8. Chai Pani required, cash is accepted
9. File move charges are extra per room, per person, per officer
10. family verification may b necesary, old docs required
11. Pls bring grandparents alongwith next time for verification
......
.......

Bro can't believe we are still following that stupid British era thing of attesting documents by a gazetted government officer. Almost all countries follow notary public these days. Though not sure about India and Bangladesh. @Joe Shearer @Bengal71 Chime in please.

 

[vmro]

I’ve only see Hindus (Indians) and atheistic Pakistanis use the “ummah Chummah” as a derogatory term for Muslims. There’s a growing size of the Gen Z who are highly anti-Islamic and atheistic that think Islam has held Pakistan back from becoming a wealthier nation. They take their anger out on Muslims and Islam.

Indians hate Islam and Muslims and wish to Hindu-ize South Asia so they can then focus on outward expansion which is currently being blocked by an Islamic Pakistan.

The WoT turned many urbanites into raging atheists and anti-Islam due to the suicide bombings.

CIA "divide et impera" projects, making radical Islamic fractions that will slaughter other Muslims and only Muslims in the ME, but somehow being very sensitive to the entity... Islamic State never confronted IDF, they were honestly devoted to kill Iranians and everyone connected with Iran...Afghanistani fractions are long story on their own CIA calculations and miscalculations...