Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran's claims of shooting down F-35s is only damaging their credibility. This kind of claim will be taken as false point blank unless hard evidence can be provided. Atleast they should tone down their propaganda and claim a F-15/16 kill
 
I don't understand, where do these aircrafts comme from if iran destroyed airports and military infra in shitrael ?
 
I disagree.

People in Iran are used to their lives despite how bad it is. We had so many protests in Iran before and not even one artesh/sepahi general stood up and declared loyalty to the people. Being underpaid is not enough of a reason to defect. Humiliation the people are also used to.


However if you are an IRGC commander and you are seeing constant smashing of Israeli missiles around you and you have to hide like a mouse 24/7 then there might be some spark inside you.

That is why i said the rate of Israeli attacks is not enough to provoke some kind of uprising.
Then you are wrong.

Artesh publicly supported people during Mahsa Amini protests. They even hosted some protestors during the protests.

As I said, anti-Israeli propaganda IS THE LAST REMAINING PILLAR OF THE REGIME. If it falls, the regime falls. As simple as that.
 
So they are supposed to see their colleagues and people being killed every day by Israel, and then revolt against IR... for what? then what? it doesn't make sense.
Exactly. When IR is incapable of providing the most basic sense of security they might rise up. However even this is not a guarantee.
 
Just as a side note, it doesn't matter now but I remember Venezuela wanted to sell us 20 F16s for a reasonable price when their economy was collapsing. They might've even accepted to barter them for goods or services. It was maybe 10 years ago, right when we were under toughest sanctions.

Everybody talked about how it's a terrible deal to get old Venezuelan F16s when we are working on our own awesome projects lol Where are the Kowsars by the way?
we missed many many chances to buy Soviet equipment in the 90s too

but ultimately the problem hasn't been weak AD it has been weak internal security allowing Mossad to build a fucking drone and ATGM factory inside Iran for years!
 
next generation will be Iranian nationalists want Iran to have nuclear weapons and strong air force (like me)
I know some people disagree with me but a new nationalist government needs to form a FULL alliance with China like Pakistan did. Who else will you go to? All whites like US Europe and Russia are zio slaves and they will not allow any national development. It's time for neither east or west to die and never ressurect.
 

Israel has established air superiority from western Iran to Tehran, according to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesman.

More than 70 Israeli fighter jets flew freely over Tehran for about 2 hours.


More Israeli air defense missiles have been moved closer to the West Bank.


The Israeli military estimates that Iran will resume its missile attacks in the early hours of the evening.

 
They come from Cyprus but their number and strike abilities should be severly diminished if they come from so far and have no mean to return to Israël no?
 
Israel has the initiative even if the Iranians step back why do you think the Israeli will
they might as well deliever a finishing blow to khameni
Khamenei era is over , even from within IRI inner cycle , there are many who was against his Fatwa and after this , they won't sit idle
 
TEHRAN – Iran's Army (Artesh) has reported the downing of a third Israeli F-35 fighter jet, likely by Iranian-made air defenses, according to a correspondent of national Iranian TV.

A statement by the Army added that the pilot was captured after ejecting over western Iran.

With this latest downing, Iran has neutralized three F-35 fighter jets since Israel began its aggression on Friday. Of the two others, one pilot is believed liquidated, and another too captured by Iranian forces.(Tehran Times)
 

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