Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

You're all getting too dragged down by Israeli propaganda. Israel could not take out Gaza in 3 years, why do you think they can take out Iran in the next 20 years ? Iraq was a very very different case. Saddam had no army, no weapons and he had attacked every other Muslim country and had no allies at all. If Iran was so easy then the US would have taken it out along with Iraq, but they did not even touch the borders of Iran.

Its war, damages happen on each side. Look at the devastation in Israel too. Iran has too many cards, their proxies alone can create havoc across Middle East, they can block strait of Hormuz, they can expand the war regionally, there is no end to it if they are pushed into a corner. It has just been a day and 9 neighborhoods in Israel are already destroyed. Hell this continues, Israelis will themselves overthrow Netanyahu. He is hanging by a thread to be taken to court for corruption trial and this is his last ditch effort to avoid it. That's the actual game here which Iran can easily win.
They don't have to completely Gaza-fy Iran, but they can absolutely make it an irrelevant backward country that can never be a threat, or even a US-Israeli puppet. It doesn't need to flatten Iran like Gaza. But if they keep carrying out airstrikes with impunity, they'll take out all the anti-Israeli people in Iran, completely destroy its economy, its military and its nuclear ambitions. And Iran's incompetence is helping them along.
 
Whatever any emotional person says, no it's not Pakistan's fight, and Pakistan won't get directly involved. This is like a mullah fantasy.

Indirectly behind the scenes in some capacity is possible yes, but that's it.
Not everything is a Mullah fantasy. This is not about Iran being an Islamic country but Iran being a deterrence against Israel. Pakistan cannot afford Iran to fall, neither an China. The fact that Iran thanked 4 countries including Pakistan yesterday, says it all. This IS our war now by all means.
 
Pakistan, Russia, and China just sitting around watching. This will come to a theater near you soon (for Russia it already has)
It's not fault of either 3 of them that Iran didn't build an air force and prepared it's forces when the writing was on the wall that Israel/US will hit it someday. Iran had all of it's money in the world but choose to indulged in geopolitics and proxywars to expand it's ideology.

It's a shame seeing your forces falling like house of the cards.
 
We were getting bombed last month, it already came to us and we fought back. It's a harsh fact but no one will fight your wars — this applies to everyone.

If these countries have a limited strategic interest in keeping your regime alive, they may covertly support it from behind the scenes. But it's unrealistic to expect direct involvement.

For China it has very limited interest. Russia too. Pakistan maybe to an extent.

Pakistan is going to have a Pro-Israeli government instead of a Pro Islamic is not “maybe to an extent”.

Pakistan will be surrounded by 3 sides with unfriendly nations (Afghanistan, India, Iran). And Israel will be right on your border alongside its bases in Azeribajian.

You underestimate these Jews, just like Iran did. And so does China.
 


Israel believes Irans current ballistic missile arsenal is 2,000 remaining.
 
Well this IS going to be Pakistan's fight whether we want it to be or not. We cannot close our eyes and bury our head in the sand.

This is not about Iran alone anymore, Can you believe what would happen if Pakistan gets surrounded by Pro-Israeli governments from 2 directions, India & Iran, while Afghanistan is already in India's nexus ? For all of Iran's issues, they are still a wall against Israel surrounding Pakistan. Pakistan needs to let go of all else and do anything it can to sustain the Iranian government.
As some one already pointed out there may be other ways to skin the cat. No need to jump into the fire set by others.
 
It's not fault of either 3 of them that Iran didn't build an air force and prepared it's forces when the writing was on the wall that Israel/US will hit it someday. Iran had all of it's money in the world but choose to indulged in geopolitics and proxywars to expand it's ideology.

It's a shame seeing your forces falling like house of the cards.
It sort of is. Maybe not China as much as Russia, but Russia is absolutely responsible for this mess.
They refused to sell jet fighters to Iran. They passed 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions on us that brought our economy on the verge of collapse and forced us to accept the JCPOA. They made a deal with Assad to abandon Syria and offered him to take refugee in Moscow. Only to name a few.
 
Yes, the US will not want to start its new chapter of relations with Iran that way.

Iranians are one of the most pro-American people in the region. So far, every US act against Iran's interests is blamed on the regime's incompetency and stupidity, but if the regime goes and the US continues to harass Iran even with a pro-US regime, it will piss Iranians off and will threaten the security of the next puppet regime.

The US once helped Iran retake Azerbaijan from the Soviets. Not militarily though, but it did help us to convince the Soviets to leave Iranian Azerbaijan after World War II.

Of course, it's all just speculation. We will see what happens.
Divide and conquer is the doctrine followed by UK and US for long. Shah’s Regime was known to be the closest US ally but it collapsed and turned to be anti-US, which made US regret so much, and there is no reason US will be so innocent to keep Iran unified, given 40+ years of mutual hostility.

Anyway, the regime still stands there, only time will tell the result, as you said. Let’s go back to the current situation, I just want to see more fireworks above Tel Aviv.
 

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