Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iskander has a range of less than 500KM and its decoys are Cold War era. It is not that much more advanced than Fattah or Keyibar Shekan which both have much longer ranges and need more sophisticated targeting systems to stay on course. Iskander is not a super missile and Russia is building at least 60-70 a month alongside Onyx missile and Zircon and a family of CMs and drones.
Iskander is hypersonics and have semi ballistic trajectory plus decoys to deceive and surpass enemy SAM systems. It has been specialized to chase Patriots during very firsts months of the war.
 
Then what? Whatever economic damage it would unleash would be worse on poorer countries, including Iran, than those bastards with their trillions upon trillions sitting thousands of kilometers away. They will build themselves back again.

If there is an iota of sense left on either side, this will end on a table, sooner rather than later.
Donald Trump is currently reneging on the agreement with the EU to avert a tariff war.

Perhaps someone needs to be found to teach him how to respect an agreement. Pakistan?, European union, Canada?... oh, wey, México!!!!¿?
 
U.S. is striking 10-20 Iranian cities/towns a night. You would respond to that by only firing 5-7 missiles. You would fire 15-20.

So either Iran is preserving its missile for a return to high tempo operations or it simply does not have inventory to risk firing that many missiles a day.

I also don’t believe Iran can build 100 BM missiles a month during wartime. 50 maybe. I look at the Russian production rates and extrapolate that number to Iran. Russia has stronger industrial base than Iran does as well. Russia isn’t building 100 Iskanders a month.

Your right

Your absolutely right

Just remember, the weapon in Iran hand isnt the missiles or drones, it's the ability to close the Hormuz, the red sea and stop movement across the region

The pain is the screws being turned on the U.S and world economy,

It's going to be difficult for Iran to maintain a high rate of attack whilst under attack


The U.S aim is to force Iran into submission, through sever bombing

Iran needs to absorb the attacks and hit back as best it can but keep the shipping lanes under threat and let time and economic pain do the rest


It's unfortunate China has aimed to calm the markets

But a few more weeks of pain and it could change the world, no more ceasefires

The U.S is not trustw
 
Just remember, the weapon in Iran hand isnt the missiles or drones, it's the ability to close the Hormuz, the red sea and stop movement across the region

The pain is the screws being turned on the U.S and world economy,

Iran isn’t even doing well at blocking Hormuz and the Houthis have been relatively worthless on the Bab Al Mandeb front other than 2 tankers. More tankers are leaving today and Houthis aren’t doing anything.

As for Iran ships are still getting thru and doing STS transfers off the coast of Oman and then going back in to get more oil.



So at least 200M barrels of oil has exited the strait since March from STS alone plus another 100M in on sea ships that were stuck.

So Iran has not been doing a good job at keeping the strait properly closed. It’s leaky at best.
 
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Well Iran has already been under crippling sanctions before so you honestly believe if Iran can keep this blockade going for several month or even a year or longer western nations who have many poor destitute people wouldn’t come unscathed from all of this trump thought the Iranians would agree to his terms of surrender he was wrong and he was the one who kept walking back on agreements that his own officials agreed to and he did as well.
It’s weird when the “bad”guys flip the script and go after the true villain my 2 cents you don’t have to agree with it

"Trump reneged on agreements so now we won't have an agreement and that will teach him to not renege on future agreements with us, which we won't have with him because he reneged on previous agreements". This makes no sense.

You scathe the West. Then what? Every single economy in the world depends on the global economy. You bring down the global economy, you bring down your own as well. The less money, resources, technology, and infrastructure you have going into it the more you get hit and the worse you come out of it. Now add being bombed relentlessly as well. The Strait is Iran's MAD. Do you see Iran seeing it to the end? If so, then do you see a line red enough, before that end, to force the US to escalate? If not, then when do you see Iran stopping and aiming towards what?

Need tangible answers please. No vague meaningless answers of "teaching a lesson", "flipping the script", "scathing the West".

Donald Trump is currently reneging on the agreement with the EU to avert a tariff war.

Donald Trump is an idiot of the highest order who has all the power in the world to essentially do whatever he wants. What's your plan then? Complete US capitulation or indefinite war? Those are the only two options left, if all talks are out.

Perhaps someone needs to be found to teach him how to respect an agreement. Pakistan?, European union, Canada?... oh, wey, México!!!!¿?

Iran? You? Lol. Pray do tell how, apart from vague empty rhetoric of fantasies a child wouldn't accept.
 
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Indeed, smaller tankers will have to be used.

Well there is a trick you ppl forgot about it , VLCC and ULCC tankers can actually get through suez canal , how ? well , while they are filled with oil from the Saudi ports , they head to AIN Sokhna seaport in Egypt and unload its cargo there , there is (Sumed) pipeline that transer the oil from there to the mediterranean , so Egypt wins FOUR times , they unload their cargo in the port ( they have to pay) , the SUMED pipeline transfer the oil to the Egyptian mediterranean ports ( they have to pay) , the VLCC gets through Suez canal ( They have to pay) , Then it reloads the oil again from Sidi Kerir seaport and they get back they pass through Suez again ( they have to pay ) LOL
 
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Trump warns Russia and China against arms sales to Iran​

Trump warns Russia and China against arms sales to Iran

President Donald Trump says he has been assured by the Russian and Chinese leaders that they would not sell weapons to Iran. (AP)
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  • US president says he believes assurances from Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin that they are not doing so
WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump warned China and Russia on Friday against selling weapons to Iran — while saying he believed assurances from Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin that they were not yet doing so.

“Therefore, two major Countries that people speak of often in terms of Iran are, in my opinion, not participating,” Trump said on his Truth Social network. “If they did, it would be very bad for them — Certainly not in their best interests.”

Trump’s comment on Truth Social comes amid reports that Washington is investigating whether Moscow and Beijing are giving Iran targeting information, following a series of strikes on US bases.

The US leader said Chinese president Xi had told him when they met in Beijing in May that he would not arm Iran under any circumstances, adding: “considering our relationship, I take him at his word.”

Trump added that Putin had made a similar promise despite the war in Ukraine.

“He understands that I do not sell Weapons to Ukraine, but to NATO Countries. They pay full price, and how those Weapons are distributed, I have no idea,” Trump said.

Trump has frequently taken a more deferential tone toward Xi and Putin than he has toward Washington’s own allies, saying that they must be respected as the leaders of major world powers.

I'm sure they shaking in fear right now
 


Houthis have become very meek up to this point. Complete 180 from the organization just 2 years ago.
 

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