Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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BigMela2onin
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No i get your point. But the scenario you describe is impossible due to the nature of the relationship between the two.
I see the argument that the youth are getting fed up but we must realize US politics never changes and the population has 0 ways to effect change. They have even assassinated a sitting US president who gave them too much push back and apparently everyone else is a pedophile they can simply blackmail. Besides, the vast majority of americans are stupid and easily distracted and will forgot about all this after a couple years of marketing campaigns. And if all else fails, they are working on autonomous AI kill bots for a reason...
mangekyo
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It’s absolutely worth it to those who enrich themselves by exploiting the sanctions
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Trump says Iran wants a deal and they are talking with Iran
kastor ville
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At this point a deal would be the last nail in Netanyahu's coffin. I say do it!!! Get the sanctions off our back and in 5yr time our economy would be booming
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‘The people stood up’: how war turned Iran towards ‘everyday nationalism’
More than 1,000 Iranians died in the Israeli attack, and some professional sociologists – a broad term in Iran – argue a new nationalism has emerged into public view.
The cultural sociologist and Soas alumnus Nematollah Fazeli claims a deep change may be afoot. What he describes as the emergence of an “everyday nationalism” is reflected in a return to epic poetry, popular podcasts about Iranian history, and thousands of ordinary conversations across the country about Iranian identity.
Fazeli explained: “Before the war, we loved Iran, but it was not a very conscious feeling. After the war, it became a central point of our discourse. Everywhere in cities and villages you observe that people are talking about their nation, their identity, their geography and their history. We just want to remind one another we are Iranian. The sense of oppression of Iran, our nation, our land, our culture, our feelings, by a world system and by foreigners was very important. It led to a desire to be together and to express the commonality of being Iranian.”
But he adds: “The Islamic Republic ideology is not a nationalist ideology. The official ideology of the revolution is not keen or interested to represent ancient Iranian culture, and that culture cannot be seen in official education, TV or radio. The people’s reaction to the war was a shock and a kind of negative cohesion. Despite their frustration with the government, the people stood up against foreign aggression; not to defend the Islamic Republic, but to defend Iran. We believe we have been an organic nation for more than 5,000 years.”
Mohammad Faze, a teacher, described how his students had put the Iranian flag on their social media profiles. Others point to the flourishing of podcasts about Iranian history and the declarations of love for Iran by popular singers including previous regime critics such as Homayoun Shajarian.
The experience of war, even short wars, can change nations. Aliakbar Velayati, an adviser to Iran’s supreme leader, argued: “the people have proven themselves, and now it is the turn of the officials. Outdated methods will no longer suffice for a society after the war.”
Speaking inside the courtyard of the Hemmat Tajrish mosque by the graves of some of those killed in the 12-day war, Mohammad Faze admits Iranian society has been living on the edge, but insists: “My nature is not to be 100% certain about anything, but if this war comes again we will be ready. We have learned from the 12-day war, and we are prepared. It is deep in the Iranian heart we will not surrender, and we will not be humiliated.”
‘The people stood up’: how war turned Iran towards ‘everyday nationalism’
Israel’s attacks helped forge a new sense of patriotism and raised expectations for a future of reformist politics
www.theguardian.com
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The Iranian leadership may indeed have unexpectedly benefited from the war: the historic irony of aerial bombardments is that while they weaken an adversary’s capabilities, they can strengthen its resolve. The Iranian people, under fire, found a new, nationalist voice, which the leadership was quick to exploit as an indication of national unity.
Speculation on the regime’s vulnerability will continue and invite comparisons with other fallen regimes in the region. But Iran’s circumstances are unlike those of Bashar al-Assad’s Syria, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq or Muammar Gadhafi’s Libya. In Syria and Libya, the incumbent regimes were opposed by armed internal opposition groups backed by external powers. In the case of Iraq, opposition was diffuse and less well-organised, but it was backed by a massive deployment of foreign forces that neutralised Saddam’s armed forces and security machinery. In Iran, there is no widespread opposition, nor has there been anything approaching the scale of the armed intervention in Iraq. Neither is there currently any credible opposition figure inside or outside Iran to whom such a pledge of support could be given.
Speculation on the regime’s vulnerability will continue and invite comparisons with other fallen regimes in the region. But Iran’s circumstances are unlike those of Bashar al-Assad’s Syria, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq or Muammar Gadhafi’s Libya. In Syria and Libya, the incumbent regimes were opposed by armed internal opposition groups backed by external powers. In the case of Iraq, opposition was diffuse and less well-organised, but it was backed by a massive deployment of foreign forces that neutralised Saddam’s armed forces and security machinery. In Iran, there is no widespread opposition, nor has there been anything approaching the scale of the armed intervention in Iraq. Neither is there currently any credible opposition figure inside or outside Iran to whom such a pledge of support could be given.
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IAEA Chief: Our inspectors have returned to Iran, done inspections at facilities not affected by June attacks
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they are watching this site 24/7
Recent satellite imagery of Taleghan 2, a former nuclear weapons development site established under the AMAD Plan and destroyed by Israel in 2024, shows ongoing work and the presence of what appears to resemble a long, cylindrical chamber, maybe a high-explosives containment vessel, approximately 36 meters long and 12 meters in diameter, placed inside a building measuring roughly 40 meters long and 17 meters wide. High-explosive containment vessels are critical to the development of nuclear weapons but can also be used in many other conventional weapons development processes. There is no unequivocal evidence that the new site will be used in nuclear weaponization, however, its location and the site's history raise significant questions.
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