Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

No they weren't. It was more to humiliate the regime.

Ultimately they will not go for it because Arabs will turn their eyes on them.

Israelis do not want another Arab - Israeli 'Cold war'

Well then, they completely got an opposite result..... Iran showed the world that Israel is not invincible. Iran also showed that the Best Western Tech can be penetrated. Lastly, it proved to the Israelis public that they cannot keep bombing countries whilst sitting back and enjoying their coffee watching the carnage on their screens.
As trita parsi pointed out earlier in the week. This inadvertently established deterrence. . It's important because Israel thought they could attack us at will. So this is a net loss for them, not us.

 

[Falcon29]

France to deploy troops to Greenland

EU airliners avoiding Iranian airspace

They don't trust Trump + Israel and they believe either of them may deliberately try getting European airliner shot down to hurt Europe

Europe knows what Israel and the Jewish-American community are doing and will get closer to Arabs soon

 

[RescueRanger]

Took me 25 years to finally accept this. That's how strong the "anti semitism" propaganda is.

Bro its rhe "boogeyman" mindset. Its actually incredibly deep rooted, Arabs/Muslims normally fall into one of four stereotypes in Western media:

Bums ans beggars:

Mohammed Hassan Yakteen (seated) the finest American Lebanese actor here cast as a beggar in the 1946 film (the lost city of the jungle)

Badguys and Bombers:

Art Malik here seen cast as Salim abu Aziz code name "Sand Spider" in the action movie True Lies starring Arnold Schwarzenegger

Salim Abu Aziz meets his end by being fired alongside a sidewinder missile.


The legendary Omar Sharif typecast as the "Egyptian Assassin" in Pink Panther.

The Bungling Billionare:

Lesser known British Pakistani Actor Amir Abdullah played the role of the bungling billionare arab sheikh in British Series Mind your language.

...
And don't even get me started on the portrayal of Musilms in Bollywood:


Point im trying to make is these stereotypes may seem innocent on the surface but they are deeply insidious when you examine them critically.

 

[kastor ville]

Iran is more afraid of Israel than USA. USA if it does anything will be symbolic to get Jewish reporters to stop harassing Trump administration

Iran response will be symbolic or nothing too

If Israel attacks it won't be symbolic and Iran would be forced to respond which it doesn't want to do because it lacks effective means at the time

You're mistaken....... The missiles are ready. The factories are working overtime. Nothing has changed since the 12-day war that would make Iran weaker or unable to respond.

 

[Persian Gulf]

You were saying? @Persian Gulf

cut the smug attitude



today the US announced it was evacuating military bases near Iran and moved refuelers from Qatar and Iran has just issued a NOTAM effectively closing its airspace:



so now the conditions suggest a small strike is likely and imminent, but it should still be a relatively small strike given the lack of ABM capable destroyers in the Med near Israel

the US is expecting Iran to respond with another symbolic strike at its military bases

but there are three destroyers in the Persian Gulf, IRI should respond in a different way to upset their calculations

 

[Falcon29]

So they didn't removed the regime because they had mercy on IRI?

Removing the regime would've put an end to every single one of their issues, yet they didn't because they fear the arabs that asked them not to do so?

They never had intention to do regime change. The results of that 12 day war were much better for Israel than Iran.

Iran for some reason agreed to ceasefire very quickly despite Israel beginning to run out of interceptors. This is Iranian leadership problem that doesn't want to establish credible deterrence against enemies.

Israel's wars with Arabs were always existential. In 73 they wanted to use nukes despite Egyptian army not even reaching borders of Israel. They don't want Arabs to not have to worry about Iran and direct their focus on Israel.

That's why Iranian regime is kept to survive. It can easily be thrown out like Libyan regime if they sought to overthrow it.

For now it keeps good balance in the region and helps accelerate Abraham Accords (doesn't anymore due to Gaza ).

 

[Falcon29]

That's embarrassing if there was some backdoor deal made despite you not even attacking US forces or Israel.

It wouldn't be if Iran had struck US forces or Israel preemptively than had to pay their due in some backdoor style deal.

But they did nothing and essentially told Qatar to tell Trump we will allow few symbolic strikes in exchange he leaves us alone.

If that is what happens of course. It's still speculation for now.

 

[Immortals]

This guy will do anything to get back into power

 

[PK781]

France to deploy troops to Greenland

EU airliners avoiding Iranian airspace

They don't trust Trump + Israel and they believe either of them may deliberately try getting European airliner shot down to hurt Europe

Europe knows what Israel and the Jewish-American community are doing and will get closer to Arabs soon

Europeans are usually IN on it, don't count them as innocents when it comes to attacking muslim countries and interests. They're mostly a selfish bunch.
It brings a smile on my face when I realize that they too, will face their own medicine soon, perhaps at the hands of the Russians. Trump will ensure that.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Argachi on Fox News via satellite feed! Iran speaking directly to the only news channel Trump watches!

Quite unprecedented.

@Persian Gulf

shame his English is not very good but still a good move

Trump is getting regular updates from Iran, he said in his press conference earlier that Iran told him they were getting shot at and returning fire, and will not execute anyone

 

[kastor ville]

shame his English is not very good but still a good move

Trump is getting regular updates from Iran, he said in his press conference earlier than Iran told him they were getting shot at and returning fire, and will not execute anyone

And let's be honest........ It's most likely true.

 

[KingQamaR]

After the protests have failed. America is resorting to the Military option.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Militarily Israel is capable of regime change in Iran they are choosing not to do it

what do you think their last attacks were aimed at?

they called it Operation Rising Lion (monarchy)

they hit Evin prison (holding dissidents)

they hit IRIB (state media arm)

I don't think Israel or the US can achieve regime change in Iran through air strikes alone.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Europeans are usually IN on it, don't count them as innocents when it comes to attacking muslim countries and interests. They're mostly a selfish bunch.
It brings a smile on my face when I realize that they too, will face their own medicine soon, perhaps at the hands of the Russians. Trump will ensure that.

Exactly, I hope that Greenland will be added to USA soon.

 

[Persian Gulf]

This guy will do anything to get back into power

his MEK friends are not going to be happy about this, he already promised them Tehran by 2019