Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Arash]

It's not Iran's tragedy .... These are dumb and lawless bastards that need education the very hard way.

If there had been a tragedy, Iran wouldn't have been able to stop "rioters", gather civilian support and secure the country.

No, these young idiots doing shameful barbaric acts need severe response : death penalty.

 

[StrategicBear]

This sounds like Indian Bhaktora fantasy of defeating China and Pakistan

Does Iran even have enough missiles to cause damage to the US?

Iran's tiny missile salvos could barely put a dent in Israel, and here you are dreaming of defeating the US?

Does Iran even have the capability to gain live target updates of moving USN ships hundreds of KM away?

And do you seriously think the US will not retaliate if Iran somehow manages to inflict siginifcant damage on it?

So tell me, what leverage does Iran have to force the US to accept enrichment and free trade? Lmao

Back then the US Navy wargamed a war against Iran in which US forces lost badly. "Red" forces (modeled on Iran) commanded by retired Marine Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper defeated "Blue" forces (U.S.) in days. Using asymmetric, low-tech tactics, Van Riper sunk 16 ships, causing, if real, 20,000+ casualties. At that time, Van Riper did not play the wargame with Iranian Hypersonic ASBMs at his disposal... Imagine now!

 

[retaxis]

Iran should threaten trump and all his family and friends. Make them paranoid at least even if they can't do much. I hope Iran can Inflict some damage to the usa but the war with Israel wasn't very promising from the world's perspective.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Bro
Why would Pakistan be next? Its unnecessary speculation bro without any respected evidence IMO

Bro, Netanyahu said the greatest threat to Israel was Pakistan. Pakistan is the last country on his hit list. It's elementary deduction and it can be conferred from the Zion evil menatlity.

 

[Viet]

There is no "point to this." This is part of a mass manipulation and hybrid warfare campaign to fabricate isolation against Iran, which does not exist in practice. What does exist is that the West is controlled by the Zionist lobby, and this lobby had already severed all relations with Iran or anyone who challenged Zionist Jewish racial supremacy.

NOTE: This has happened before: the Iran-Iraq war, attacks in the 90s, attacks in the 2000s, embargoes (even from the UN, which no longer exist today), etc. Nothing new is happening, except for the manipulative propaganda. The actual world is a caos.

Any official figures how many people are killed, wounded or hanged?
Yes, the Jews are evil, the West is cruel, the sanctions are terrible but How is possible that Iran is stuck in that endless circle?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well there are many location world wide where political unrest exist

Syria
Sudan
Pakistan
Minnasota / Los Angeles etc lot of Democratic states and cities
Somalia
Ukraine
Venezuela
PKK in Turkish/Iraqi zones

To claim it is enough to start a military campaign seems quite odd

Iran is facing limbo due to external sanction , if these sanction don't exist I am sure Iranians would also be driving BMWs and Land Cruisers with their oil money


The is small incident , is small compared to 100,000 people who faced genocide in Palestine and lives of 5 million people destroyed , economically and financially

After witnessing Palestine in media for 2 years you become numb to small demonstration or incidents


It seems Iran had to do what they needed to do to protect civil order
Specially since they were in a conflict / war scenario

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

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"Nicht schlecht", as you call it

one day all muslim would know that all these ISIS and al qaida was mossad and CIA planned organizations to show and use them as an excuse for attacking muslim countries and at the same time create a bad image for islam and muslims

 

[Xerxes22]

This sounds like Indian Bhaktora fantasy of defeating China and Pakistan

Does Iran even have enough missiles to cause damage to the US?

Iran's tiny missile salvos could barely put a dent in Israel, and here you are dreaming of defeating the US?

Does Iran even have the capability to gain live target updates of moving USN ships hundreds of KM away?

And do you seriously think the US will not retaliate if Iran somehow manages to inflict siginifcant damage on it?

So tell me, what leverage does Iran have to force the US to accept enrichment and free trade? Lmao

The answer to all your questions is YES. As for the leverage, I already said how.

Iran didn't even put a dent on Isreal? That's why the media blackout happened right?

I consider the 12 day war a defeat. Not because Israel didn't take losses but because of the strategic implications in the aftermath of the ceasefire. As for Iran did nothing to Israel, Now that sounds like sumfin a shite eating Indian would say. Are you one?

 

[Xerxes22]

This is a worse script than Bollywood

Worse than a Reality TV star becoming a Global Hegemon? The things I said could easily happen and will happen.

 

[ToddE]

@Persian Gulf clean the thread of irrelevant posts. I am reporting them one by one.

 

[StrategicBear]

All-Out War about to happen. Iran must wipe out the US CENTCOM and leave none alive by the time this ends.

 

[mulj]

How long would regime change in Syria take, if Iran hadn’t supported Assad? Assad stood because he had Soleimani.

You should be more realistic, assad stood because russians provided air cover and you provided foot soldiers, your foot soldiers alone would be overrun by rebels long time ago.

 

[mulj]

Maintaining control over an infrastructure that is crumbling and divided easily influenced populous for how long?

As Americans race to Super-intelligence AI and the Arabs provide funding and land and energy to reach the next level of human evolution, Iran is still fighting economic warfare and in constant war economy.

Americans can keep the sanctions on Iran forever and even if Iran doesn’t fall, make life very difficult for the people. This will lead to a reoccurring cycle of protests. This will scare away foreign capital that Iran desperately needs to revitalize its economy (Russian/Chinese investors).

The question isn’t whether Iran falls or doesn’t fall, the question is what is the end game here? How does Iran get back on the path to prosperity or growth that hasn’t happened in last 10 years post JCPOA.

Or if it’s just about resistance: Then Cuba and North Korea have been resisting the West far longer than Iran has. But I doubt anyone on this board would like to live in either nation right now. Nor are either of those two nations ever going to be prosperous. They sit isolated and in the constant state of war economy.

Again, no one on here has the answer to how Iran recovers. The Israelis aren’t going to go away or collapse. The Americans are too dominated by Zionists in all facets of their power structure, economy, and society that they will never remove the shackles on Iran, magically for no reason. There is no incentive for them to.

Iran’s leverage for forcing the U.S. to negotiate was its foreign legions (HZ, Hamas, Houthi’s, Iraqi Pmu, etc) which are now severely weakened and diluted. It was also its nuclear program namely Fordow that could theoretically continuing enriching even during a war (that turned out to be a lie). Its last leverage was an enriched uranium stockpile which is buried somewhere underneath Fordow or in Isfahan.

Even if it wasn’t buried it would require uranium metal conversion facility to create the uranium metal core for a chain reaction fission cycle, that facility was destroyed.

Again the question is what cards does Iran have to play to get free from sanctions and back integrated with the world?

Work with SA and Turkiye more closely and sanctions impact will be much reduced, scale down public proclaimed goals and adopt deception style of policy like jews, that is the world we live in.
I do not see any other rational political strategy which could yield economic relief and long term existence of IRI.

 

[Kyussis]

Iran should make an alliance with the Sunni Resistance Groups and Muslim Brotherhood linked parties and be ready for the next joint initiative against the Zionists and their Allies.

Can you please name these Sunni resistance groups. The only ones I know are in Palestine and are already our allies.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

All-Out War about to happen. Iran must wipe out the US CENTCOM and leave none alive by the time this ends.

Please state your source or else, also state, if that is your analysis or understanding?!