Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Here is the problem:

U.S. has 180 F-22’s. Even if we say a pathetic 50% are combat ready that’s still 90 F-22’s that could fly over Iran (not even counting the hundreds of F-35s).

How will the Iranian air defense team stop the F-22 from bombing the entrances of these bases?

For ones with silos, You can leave teams inside the silos 24/7 to fire whatever they can out of the silos. But not all underground bases are silos. And if F-22’s dominate the skies dropping a PGM thru those silo doors isn’t tough as the are not ICBM hardened silos they are basically just holes carved into a mountain with a cover.

I would be surprised if all 20+!aren’t already know by intelligence services. After all many were found by OSINT members. Their entrances and construction create visible signatures from space that an AI algorithm could shift thru images and detect any new construction.

For example,the Vera Rubin telescope (largest digital telescope on earth) uses AI to parse thru 20 TB of images nightly looking for asteroids moving in the night sky that haven’t been documented. Now imagine what CIA or space force has access to. The era of hiding stuff in remote regions from satellites has come to a close. Maybe in a country the size of China, not in Iran with a very distinct topography.

I don’t like this direct confrontation with the U.S. because Iran is not set up well for losing its skies. Sure it could hit some installations and maybe even hit a few ships. But to what end? A shoot out with the U.S. is not something it can win. And mass killing of U.S. soldiers will only get people in Trumps base to be more pro war.

Not sure how IRGC is going to play this. It didn’t perform well when it was Israel vs Iran and Israel flying from 1200 miles away every day. How can we expect better performance against the U.S. that has far more airbases and a carrier fleet?

Not trying to be a Debbie downer. But these were the same concerns I had when we lost HZ and Syria.

If you sit and do the game theory mental exercise on this, there’s not a whole lot of options for iran here. The goal was having Iraq, Syria, Hamas, HZ, Houthis able to start a regional war. There’s really only the Houthi’s now. Iraq PMUs might do some rocket attacks but nothing they haven’t done in the past

I got the number 20 because Israeli affiliated OSINT accounts showed satellite images of significant damage to 22 SSM bases in West Iran

excavators should be stored inside the base, not outside, so it is harder to target them

you need very intense sortie rate over prolonged period of team to keep all the entrances blocked

there is no perfect solution, just more and more entrances, more and more hardened silos, more and more distributed mobile TELs constantly changing location, and better SHORAD protection at the sites

 

[Persian Gulf]

US apparently withdrew its THAAD battery from Israel as of December 2025

 

[Persian Gulf]

organised group of heavily armed terrorists entering Tehran metro on January 8th

 

[StrategicBear]

A blockade of oil to and from Iran could invite Iran to close the Straits of Hormuz in response. If Iran can't profit from oil revenue, why should we let the Arabs and GCC states who host US Bases the ability to profit from oil while Iran suffers? Iran must adopt a scorched-earth policy.

 

[Kambojaric]

Few diaspora Iranians (not all) have immense level of self hatred which makes them go irrational.

Definitely the case here in Scandinavia. My take on Irans domestic issue is irrelevant but I cannot for the life of me understand how many Iranians I have met here who want Trump to attack Iran. How much hatred do you have that you want another nation to come in and bomb your people because it might lead to a different government.

 

[GWXP]

New joke about Iran's counter-intelligence - Mossad spies search for Mossad spies among Mossad spies.

"In Tehran, if you see two men whispering, one is a Mossad agent. If you see three men whispering, two are Mossad agents and the third is their supervisor from the IRGC... who is also on the Mossad payroll."

 

[VCheng]

If there is an attack, hit Israel, and hit UAE......mine the strait and keep firing those missiles for weeks if possible....the pressure of Asia and Europe will bring the US to the table. If we don't...well, we're still toast, albeit it will be slow death.

So, just to be clear, you see Iran as dead, the only choices are between a quick death or a slow one?

I disagree. I think that all sides can, and should, be able to work out a middle ground compromise that is workable for all sides. No death and destruction is necessary.

 

[hussain0216]

I wonder if the killing of protesters in the U.S makes it more difficult to target Iran because of the alleged harm to protesters

 

[Aziqbal]

Google map co-ordinates of American THAAD in Negav desert in Israel can be found on goggle using co ordinates 31.498098,34.805591

Iran need to avoid hitting everything else and hit the AN-TPY-2 radar

The THAAD without a radar is useless, taking out the launchers is no good if the main radar that controls those launchers is still active plus it has 6 launchers and only 1 radar

Weakest link in the THAAD is the radar

All open source information from Egypts Intel Observer these are not my annotations

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Definitely the case here in Scandinavia. My take on Irans domestic issue is irrelevant but I cannot for the life of me understand how many Iranians I have met here who want Trump to attack Iran. How much hatred do you have that you want another nation to come in and bomb your people because it might lead to a different government.

Thats mind control and programming

it is a test, which will be applied on Pak. soon

at the outset, it was labelled as 'velvet revolution' by the CIA

 

[Homajon]

Slowly more and more of them are realising the bitter truth that they were gravely mistaken.....now they are losing their mind

 

[StrategicBear]

So, just to be clear, you see Iran as dead, the only choices are between a quick death or a slow one?

I disagree. I think that all sides can, and should, be able to work out a middle ground compromise that is workable for all sides. No death and destruction is necessary.

Not with Trump and Nets in office. They want Iran toppled. War is unavoidable.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

"It appears we have entered the final countdown for a new American-Israeli offensive against Iran, as tensions reach a breaking point.

This escalation has prompted the UAE to clear its stance and settle the debate with a definitive official statement, categorically refusing to allow its territory to be used as a platform for any military action against Iran.

U.S. President Donald Trump has announced the deployment of what he described as a "Great Armada," led by the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, currently steaming toward the region.

Simultaneously, major global airlines have begun a "mass exodus" from the region's airspace. Carriers including KLM, Air France, Lufthansa, and IndiGo have already suspended or rerouted flights. Regional airports are experiencing sudden flight path changes to bypass Iranian and Iraqi airspace, resulting in widespread delays and cancellations.

While the Israeli military has raised its readiness to the maximum level, reports indicate that Israel anticipates an "imminent" U.S. strike and is bracing for a potential Iranian retaliatory response on its soil.

In response, Tehran has vowed a "regret-inducing" retaliation that would target all U.S. bases in the region should it be subjected to any attack"

 

[nang2]

I wonder if the killing of protesters in the U.S makes it more difficult to target Iran because of the alleged harm to protesters

Or easier because Trump now needs to divert the attention.

 

[hussain0216]

An attack on Iran isnt so easy

Even with U.S military might, an attack on iran thousands of miles away from mainland USA is fraught with danger

Not only due to the risk of Iran firing multiple missiles at multiple targets and U.S bases throughout the middle east

It shuts off the economies of Iran, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq etc

During any attack for the duration airlines will be shut off from not only Iranian airspace, but most likely much of the middle east and even effecting Pakistan and India

India especially can't use the Pakistan route over Afghanistan and central Asia



It shuts off oils and gas production for multiple countries, effecting multiple economies including China and India

The protesters in Iran have already been subdued and the U.S has multiple issues Including protests inside the U.S to deal with


An attack is possible but it's difficult with no clear outcome and A LOT of risk



The U.S is possibly posturing to try and force concessions from Iran and over time use the same trick of economic strangulation forcing internal unrest and suffering

Up until 2012 Iran's development was impressive, then since it's been 13 years of very harsh economic sanctions to try and break iran


No amount of concessions will do, unless Iran bows and breaks they will keep going
Iran whatever the reasons is fighting for its soul, it's independence and future


Iran cannot trust its diaspora, most them of are the biggest self loathing, drunken, godless scum and bunch of whores you will ever find