Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

Larijani plays down imminent threat of war, suggests negotiations are ongoing

I guess Trump's deadline for negotiations hasn't been reached yet so Larijani is comfortable

hope he doesn't plan to win the 'we fell for it again' award

The question is what is Iran going to offer Trump to make him overcome Israeli resistance to a deal?

Iran has floated moving the enriched uranium to a 3rd country like Russia or perhaps China. Iran has floated a regional nuclear enrichment “consortium”. But the U.S. is not buying it.

I don’t see how they can strike a deal without Iran giving up enrichment for 10 years (a freeze) or permanently.

The more pressing matters is even if a deal is struck that with the EU/Britain moving to designate IRGC a terrorist organization, is that Iran cannot reap economic benefits. Even right now in Venezuela, the big U.S. oil companies have said they won’t enter due to U.S. policy risk and have explicitly said that Venzenula government needs to change for them to feel comfortable.

So even if Trump removes sanctions on Iran as part of any deal. There is no guarantee any major investment capital flows into Iran as global companies will stay away due to threat of reimposition of sanctions. This is exactly what killed JCPOA.

That’s the main problem with this entire situation. Since Western companies left Iran in 2005-2010. The western world has moved on from Trade with Iran. Thus, how do you convince companies it’s okay to do business again?

 

[Immortals]

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

seems attack postponed till next weekend

 

[tsunset]

If there's a conflict, will the regular army Artesh not get involved? Will the US forces target specifically IRGC assets?

Similar to how in Lebanon, the army did not involve themselves to protect Hezbollah.

Artesh will participate if Iranzamin is attacked just like in the last war, this is their job

However they do not have the same capabilities as IRGC such as long range missiles, they mostly participated with drones and air defense

Lebanese army are Christian cucks

 

[Immortals]

 

[mythbuster]

The question is what is Iran going to offer Trump to make him overcome Israeli resistance to a deal?

Iran has floated moving the enriched uranium to a 3rd country like Russia or perhaps China. Iran has floated a regional nuclear enrichment “consortium”. But the U.S. is not buying it.

I don’t see how they can strike a deal without Iran giving up enrichment for 10 years (a freeze) or permanently.

The more pressing matters is even if a deal is struck that with the EU/Britain moving to designate IRGC a terrorist organization, is that Iran cannot reap economic benefits. Even right now in Venezuela, the big U.S. oil companies have said they won’t enter due to U.S. policy risk and have explicitly said that Venzenula government needs to change for them to feel comfortable.

So even if Trump removes sanctions on Iran as part of any deal. There is no guarantee any major investment capital flows into Iran as global companies will stay away due to threat of reimposition of sanctions. This is exactly what killed JCPOA.

That’s the main problem with this entire situation. Since Western companies left Iran in 2005-2010. The western world has moved on from Trade with Iran. Thus, how do you convince companies it’s okay to do business again?

Save your eggs for now , you can count the chicken later on.

 

[Eşbah]

Larijani plays down imminent threat of war, suggests negotiations are ongoing

I guess Trump's deadline for negotiations hasn't been reached yet so Larijani is comfortable

hope he doesn't plan to win the 'we fell for it again' award

What can Iran possibly offer to the Americans to stop the war? Handing over enriched uranium? Ceasing the civil Iranian nuclear program? Curbing the number and range of its ballistic missiles? End its support for the Houthis and Hezbollah? Abandoning Iraq? Would the IRI leadership accept a dictated peace? Is the IRGC ready for its Treaty of Versailles?

It doesn't make sense to me unless they genuinely and truly have surrendered.

 

[HAIDER]

Bin Salman was a Call of Duty gamer and is a Lindsay Lohan lover. I dont see any scenario where he will become "pro Iran" or "pro muslim". He is a cold blooded westerner. He prais to god right now, that the USA attack Iran without damaging Arabia.

UAE betrayal is shocking for him , he thought UAE hand in hand to counter Iran hegemony in Persian gulf. But now his survival in the hand of present Iran govt. If they topple, next pro US govt will more brutal against KSA and GCC countries.

 

[HAIDER]

In a nutshell, the whole global leadership is a shitshow just like the average people are since the rise of the cell phone era. The longterm thinking, the 'geopolitics', the civilizational narratives are falling apart and falling apart fast with the clowns of the global leaders, as we just witnessed in Davos 2026.

The global leadership is a joke after the Fall of the Soviet Union in early 90s because the dreaded threat was removed and it was 'The End of History' per a famous quote by a Japanese guy in early 90s. But history never dies even if one narrative dies.

As to your quoted post, you are right. The regional countries are getting really tired of the blackmail or at least confused: The clowns sitting in Washington who make the 180 degrees opposite polices where one President makes the JCPOA while the other dismantles years of hard work barely a few years later shows nothing but a degradation of a nation, of a decline. So much so for the virtues of 'democracy' and the vaunted 'checks and balances', and for the 'institutionalized' thinking in America. The jokers sitting in Washington since the Fall of the Soviet Union are smug, jokers getting literally blowjobs and fondling women and more worried about their media appearances then being serious leaders. Makes even Bush senior like some Plato in comparison.

I read little about US present previous govt role in protecting Israel role/interest in the region. But Trump cross all the lines . US interest and Israeli interest some how collide in the region. Two opposite interest in the region doesn't run parallel for ever.

 

[Shags101]

What can Iran possibly offer to the Americans to stop the war? Handing over enriched uranium? Ceasing the civil Iranian nuclear program? Curbing the number and range of its ballistic missiles? End its support for the Houthis and Hezbollah? Abandoning Iraq? Would the IRI leadership accept a dictated peace? Is the IRGC ready for its Treaty of Versailles?

It doesn't make sense to me unless they genuinely and truly have surrendered.

could be just stall tactics but they give up enrichment without a big big big incentive and in a face saving way would basically have the sharks circling around them from inside of Iran and outside they will just look weak and easy picking from this day forward.

Honestly I keep saying this but after almost a year I would have hoped they would have scraped enough nuclear material together to go nuclear but I’m guessing if they did they would have tested one by now

 

[HAIDER]

Bin Salman was a Call of Duty gamer and is a Lindsay Lohan lover. I dont see any scenario where he will become "pro Iran" or "pro muslim". He is a cold blooded westerner. He prais to god right now, that the USA attack Iran without damaging Arabia.

You need to understand , Bin Salman is living in the house of cards...his replacement is 24/7 ready. Already backup plan living in Canada.

 

[Hussain]

 

[Watandar]

You need to understand , Bin Salman is living in the house of cards...his replacement is 24/7 ready. Already backup plan living in Canada.

Huh ? Who is that ?

 

[Shags101]

Huh ? Who is that ?

Saad al-Jabri a guy he tried to have killed or he could be just making a Canadian joke……..no offense to the Canadian whose been liking my posts I need you bud

 

[Watandar]

Saad al-Jabri a guy he tried to have killed or he could be just making a Canadian joke……..no offense to the Canadian whose been liking my posts I need you bud

Okay...I looked up this guy but he cannot ever replace Bin Salman. Unless by Bin Salman you guys had meant someone other than MBS. You have to be a prominent member of the House of Saud to ever be a candidate to replace MBS and there are quite few other dynamics as well.


If you mean just using Al Jabri to bring down MBS, hmm still v unlikely.