Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

Iran has an almost unlimited supply of missiles and drones of all sorts.

No it does not, and for the record, those ballistic missile bases, entrances will not last very long if this war starts. Israel had shut them down over 12 days, but the USA will do it alot quicker as they are alot closer to Iran.

Lets hope it does not come to that.

 

[lightning f57]

Iran needs to stick to its red lines otherwise its a slow death by a thousand cuts and removal of all in power like Iraq.

You could argue extreme sanctions are not helping, Iran needs to build more confidence with its neighbours so they become stronger anti war and also do more trade. Iran should patch up relations with Chinese. It's time to full tilt east, this Century will likely be Chinas.

 

[mulj]

No it does not, and for the record, those ballistic missile bases, entrances will not last very long if this war starts. Israel had shut them down over 12 days, but the USA will do it alot quicker as they are alot closer to Iran.

Lets hope it does not come to that.

Not really, with general mobilization and whole country in war effort that is minor issue and easily overcome, problem is are iranians ready for nation wide war campaign.

 

[StrategicBear]

Those idiots really think the war will end if Khamenei is killed? Many levels of Successors have possibly already been planned, with IRGC taking up the highest chain of command if that happens...

 

[mangekyo]

LOL. He posted this 3 minutes ago

 

[Falcon29]

From what I’ve read, Americans refused to move to Oman, and they wanted to include the BM program. Multiple sources report the same

Trump does not seek war. Kushner + Witkoff are doing Israel's bidding just pretending to see things differently than Israel to say they tried and save face in front of their Trump administration.

It makes sense for Iran to not compromise at all unless Iran is ready to change entire system of governance and politics.

Truly I am uncertain who is more prepared for this type of war which is not traditional by any sense, even for the US which is adopting new war strategies that appear more tiered , rapid and cost effective style, trying to extract concessions than trying to destroy.

Trump thinks he can hit a nuclear facility again and facilitate an Iranian surrender that way. That tells you US is not seriously considering large military options.

The bigger threat is US greenlighting Israel to do another 2 week skirmish which would cause a dent in Iran's defensive capabilities and disrupt rebuilding of missile ecosystem.

 

[Shags101]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-says-irans-khamenei-should-be-very-worried/

So did he let the cat out of the bag did he admit there’s other more secure nuclear sites with this enriched uranium could be at at this very moment or is he just an idiot who just mouth off too much

 

[ShapurII]

I hate to be that "I told you so" guy, but I had warned people on here about an all-out war with the US since 2018 and they all laughed and said the US would never dare to do that because it will be too costly and blah blah blah.

I did warn these fools that instead of mocking Biden for his incompetence and senility, they should help him appear as a strong, reasonable president in the US by negotiating with him while building nukes covertly as fast as possible. Biden was God's gift to the Ayatollahs, and they missed that opportunity as usual. God gave these idiots 4 years to prepare for the return of Trump and what did they do? Nothing other than stealing money off the pocket of ordinary Iranians to send it to a bunch of useless rag-tag militias in Arab countries. Where are these militias now?

Without nuclear weapons, even a ground invasion of Iran is no longer out of the question. Let's not forget that millions of Iranians inside Iran and out of Iran cherish the idea of foreign military intervention if it means to get rid of the Ayatollahs. It was only a month ago that the regime killed thousands of Iranians in 2 days, if not over 10 thousands. If you think people will fight against the Americans to save the Ayatollahs, you're still living in your fantasies and delusions.

There is no scenario, not even a single imaginary scenario, where any of these events could end in a good outcome for Iran or the Iranians. All possible outcomes are terrible. And nobody is to blame for this other than Khamenei and the IRGC.

 

[Falcon29]

Trump appears cornered in this interview. He clearly doesn't want this. The pressure from the US government and media is the sole reason he even brought up the protests and moved military assets to the region.

This CBS reporter is a US government agent and is manipulating Trump in the interview. For people that believe president runs the show, think again.

Does not mean he and Vance cannot hold out. But how long can they resist the pressure ?

This is why they likely would want Israel to do a quick strike then facilitate a ceasefire between Iran and Israel to kick the can down the road.

Israel knows this and is probably telling the US it cannot afford a limited attack on Iran right now because it wants US to declare and start a war. Probably why they're telling media they're short on missile interceptors. It's most likely a lie. They still have ample supply to handle Iranian missiles barrages.

Trump wants this over quickly. If Israel doesn't budge, he might do a quick strike on Iran targeting one or two facilities and declare a ceasefire. Israel would then go in a fit of rage and attack Gaza or Lebanon.

Until later this summer where they try setting up US for a war with Iran again.

Maybe this escalate the Epstein stuff soon and start picking off people in the administration to send message to Trump if they get really impatient

 

[mulj]

Trump appears cornered in this interview. He clearly doesn't want this. The pressure from the US government and media is the sole reason he even brought up the protests and moved military assets to the region.

This CBS reporter is a US government agent and is manipulating Trump in the interview. For people that believe president runs the show, think again.

Does not mean he and Vance cannot hold out. But how long can they resist the pressure ?

This is why they likely would want Israel to do a quick strike then facilitate a ceasefire between Iran and Israel to kick the can down the road.

Israel knows this and is probably telling the US it cannot afford a limited attack on Iran right now because it wants US to declare and start a war. Probably why they're telling media they're short on missile interceptors. It's most likely a lie. They still have ample supply to handle Iranian missiles barrages.

Trump wants this over quickly. If Israel doesn't budge, he might do a quick strike on Iran targeting one or two facilities and declare a ceasefire. Israel would then go in a fit of rage and attack Gaza or Lebanon.

Until later this summer where they try setting up US for a war with Iran again.

Maybe this escalate the Epstein stuff soon and start picking off people in the administration to send message to Trump if they get really impatient

They have probably video of him doing things, he has no agency in this matter.

 

[ShapurII]

They have probably video of him doing things, he has no agency in this matter.

Why do people assume that whatever Trump does is due to Jewish pressure on him?

Watch his old interviews. He always eyed Iran's oil and resources even before this Epstein thing happened.

Any sane person who sees an opportunity to seize Iran's tremendous energy and mineral resources would go for it. I don't think Trump behaves the way he does because he is under the influence of the Zionists. He just sees an opportunity to control Iran's resources and he loves that idea.

 

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[mulj]

Why do people assume that whatever Trump does is due to Jewish pressure on him?

Watch his old interviews. He always eyed Iran's oil and resources even before this Epstein thing happened.

Any sane person who sees an opportunity to seize Iran's tremendous energy and mineral resources would go for it. I don't think Trump behaves the way he does because he is under the influence of the Zionists. He just sees an opportunity to control Iran's resources and he loves that idea.

Because basics of american politics, in that sense if there is no jews pressure this would be the worst possible moment for him to attack Iran given implications of it.
HE would think more then twice about implications of it unless he counts on swift and fast victory which the moment where iranians are stepping in or not, that remains to be seen.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Plans for U.S.-Iran nuclear talks in Oman on Friday are back on, after several Arab and Muslim leaders urgently lobbied the Trump administration on Wednesday afternoon not to follow through on threats to walk away, two U.S. officials told "They asked us to keep the meeting and listen to what the Iranians have to say. ” U.S. officials

 

[mulj]

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Ok, i am stupid for this games and will not comment it further after talks or war God forbid happens.