Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Shags101]

What video was that do you have it I don’t recall that one

 

[PK781]

So how are things looking at the coming weekend?

How much are the chances of WAR?

 

[Shags101]

So how are things looking at the coming weekend?

How much are the chances of WAR?

I’m guessing we will find out right after the meeting is over trump will post something on true social

 

[Dil Pakistan]

So how are things looking at the coming weekend?

How much are the chances of WAR?

Uncle Putin is in Persian Gulf and inside Iran.
Father in Law of USA (President Xi) is in Arabian sea, Persian Gulf and in Iran.
Both, uncle and father in law, have got visible and invisible weapons stationed inside Iran and in the waters around. Satellites are also active.

US aircraft carrier is docked 1000-km from Iran (Tomahawk missile range is 1000-km).

Despite the above, Israel and US will kick bomb to start the war.
The spanking they will get this time will be much worse than June 2025.

 

[ToqeLowkey]

Note this They will attack iran on the first day of Ramadan . These kufar always attack Muslims during our holy days.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Even in this thread, so many surrender advocates are popping up.
It's obvious why an aggressor dangles the bait of false negotiations right before starting a war.
Because surrender advocates claim a peace that doesn't exist, attacking their own government from behind and crippling its defense posture.
Because soldiers lose their will to fight if they think their government will surrender easily.
The invasion begins only after sufficient destabilization through false negotiations.

 

[Falcon29]

Good points.

Can I just say this loudly now on pdf?
If Iran's missiles were ineffective and "not accurate " (accuracy matters, but deadliness matters way more)as a few active posters said during and after the operation True promise 2, then why the he'll would US assemble a large partof its military arsenal against Iran, to take put its ballistic missiles ,which it is unprepared to handle the fall out of a potential war with US?

My only conclusion is that Iran's missiles performed so well in the last exchanges Iran had with Israel, that US and israel are willing to risk losing a war with Iran in front of the world, just to try to neutralize the power of Iran's missiles.
This is confirmation that Iran's proof of concept related to its military doctrine heavily relying on missiles is valid and deadly for its enemies. The know-how cant be removed and neither can all the locations of missiles in Iran be destroyed. Us didnt even find all of saddams Scuds in the initial phase of the Iraq war,and saddam had a crude arsenal of missiles and a much smaller country to hide them than Iran.

The 12 day war showed us Israel had vulnerabilities. Interception rated started going down around day 10 due to multiple factors like interceptor shortages but also higher quality of Iranian missiles being thrown into the mix. At around day 10 Iran was firing off smaller but high quality missile barrages that were accurately hitting some targets.

It doesn't mean US and Israel would lose a war. But it means Israel has a vulnerability where it has to conserve some of those interceptors for their most important infrastructure while expose some infrastructure that is also important. Their interception rate was going to get lower and lower day by day. And a daily occurrence of 1-3 targets being hit a day in Tel Aviv and Haifa a day that goes on for one month is something that isn't good for Israel's security image and sense of security among their population. Particularly sense of security in their capital, Tel Aviv (ik they claim Jerusalem but it's Tel Aviv thats their economic bastion).

I wouldn't get comfortable though. They've collected lots of data during that war and are going to apply some 'patches' to these systems.

But the biggest development is the US pouring money to build larger quantities of Patriot/Thaad systems to deploy. That is not good for Iran as they have much better economies of scale and industrial capacity. And the US will do anything for Israel.

The 'fix' is deploying many more such batteries in and around Israel. And I don't believe it will take two years. If China/Russia don't provide assistance to Iran to help them create industrial capacity+ financial means to build many more missiles, then it will become more difficult to overwhelm that defensive shield around Israel. Leading Iran to have to decide whether to make risky maneuver of targeting nearby Arab states which are more within range of varying weapons systems.

It was a bad idea to agree to ceasefire after 12 days, imo. It's only good in sense that there is still some remaining mystery to Iran's true capabilities. But Israel wasn't made vulnerable enough. A few more days and interception rate could have gone down to 30-40%. At that point there is loss of confidence in Israeli defensive capabilities forcing them to take more time to enhance that defensive multi layered system. Buying Iran lots of time. It only would have took another 100-200 missiles spread out over 6-7 days.

Doesn't mean US will seek war. It won't especially as it has no pretext right now and midterms are coming up. It may just unleash Israel on Iran again for another two week skirmish to further weaken Iran. A large undertaking/war won't be waged at all by the US until closer to end of Trump's term, imo.

Iran appears more alert and prepared for round 2, which might explain why Israel hasn't pulled the trigger yet. Target acquisition is not there yet.

It serves Iran to continue on state of high alert and disconnect internet. As much as that sucks for Iranian people.

There are too many defensive systems pouring into the region. And Iran's airspace is vulnerable.

I'm not sure a pre-emptive strike would help Iran besides doing damage in Tel Aviv and frightening Israelis. Israel wouldn't respond immediately but may respond a few days later. US would be slightly embarrassed and not jump in right away but would intercept Iranian missiles. It would basically embarrass them and throw off their calculations.

But then Iranians would be on edge and awaiting Israeli + potential US response. And US will get snarky in negotiations.

If Iranians can endure a week of being on edge, and buildup to a war, they should preemptively strike Israel to throw matters out of sync.

But if they're gonna be terrified and frantically awaiting next US-Israeli steps + prematurely expose military assets/processes in place for potential war, then it's not worth it for them.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I will pull my old post here when its all over, so far its going as it seemed.

My prediction was IRGC initiated inflation => Protests => US-IRI Standoff => Talks => Benign Military Exchange, probably mutually agreed => de-escalation and Internal Coup completed. Now non-ideological IRGC Larijani, Ghalibaf etc + Reformist current crop + will take over entire country, its 1 million strong military, 8 trillion USD worth hydrocarbon reserves. They will open some proportion of Hydrocarbon to USD against guarantees of foriegn investment into the hydrocarbon sector. This is what was proposed during Raisi+Abdollahian tenure when Saudis (Basically US) offered cash against hydrocarbon sector modernisation. Conservative dominant IRI showed no interest and we had a war. Then Raisi and his FM were killed. Previously Soleimani was burnt from inside. A slow coup is hapening.

You're going off on a baseless tangent that assumes a viable state at the end of it...
Sure the land is resource rich... but who wants to slice the pie? Did they allow Mossadegh to get a larger share for Iranians?
Zion wasn't really even a thing back then... Arabs had capitulated after taking the bait to dislodge Turks... who never really recovered and the new sheriff in town was not a Brit or French but America.

Today the global finance seeks to bounce... they made their egg in zion and US is waiting for the verdict. It has been drained dry.
Iran cannot offer partnership to one who seeks to rule... they don't seek partners... thy need subordinates! Princes and quislings raised and trained amongst them... fully compromised. The elites in far east, eastern Europe and central Asia still send their young pre teens to boarding schools paying handsome sums to rubber shoulders with who's who...

 

[925boy]

You are gonna hurt some of our American "Iranian" friends here!

Facts and truth are objective and not sentimental, so I hope they remember that when US embarrasses itself in front of them soon.

 

[StrategicBear]

Iran should already do a Preemptive Strike anytime they detect an American bombing is about to begin. Then--24 hours nonstop pain on their entire bases and ships. If wanna go, go all out without holding back, consequences be damned!

The US and Israel will attack Iran anyways since they want a limit to Iran's missile program which Iran will of course NEVER ACCEPT, so since war is inevitable, might as well get in some lucky pot shots in first taking out some of their capabilities first.

 

[ShapurII]

1. Show me where Khamenei threatened to "Kill trump".

2. Idiots like you think that Khamenei is a dictator and that the President and his government are only there for show. It was Pezeshkian and his foreign minister who keep begging for "negotiations".

3. With the experience of June 2025 behind them yet the rubber necked reformists only know to beg for "negotiations" and people like you only know to divert any criticism of the elected government at the foot of Ali Khamenei.

The only Humiliation I suffer is knowing that I have idiots like your self as my "hamvatan".

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From that, to begging for negotiation with Trump's most Zionist figures.
Also, Khamenei has at least 4 times shown unconditional support for Pezeshkiyan's internal and foreign policies. There is zero doubt that Khamenei agrees with Pezeshkiyan's policies.

Millions of Iranians are ashamed of having Muslim zombies like you in Iran. Fortunately, we do not consider you guys to be one of us. We are just rightfully ashamed that you exist.

 

[Falcon29]

Facts and truth are objective and not sentimental, so I hope they remember that when US embarrasses itself in front of them soon.

Don't be overconfident. I remember you saying Hezbollah was untouchable and would ruin Israel in any upcoming war.

The Israeli operation waged against Iran was more substantial than what all of us were expecting.

 

[Kyussis]

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From that, to begging for negotiation with Trump's most Zionist figures.
Also, Khamenei has at least 4 times shown unconditional support for Pezeshkiyan's internal and foreign policies. There is zero doubt that Khamenei agrees with Pezeshkiyan's policies.

Millions of Iranians are ashamed of having Muslim zombies like you in Iran. Fortunately, we do not consider you guys to be one of us. We are just rightfully ashamed that you exist.

Feeling is mutual my Garb gedda "friend"!