Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToqeLowkey]

Iran should issue similar statements for occupied tal Aviv. Get out of tal Aviv!

 

[SolarWarden]

It looks like Rubio and Trump can't wait to see US ships blowing up in flames and sinking from Iranian missiles...

I say we give them what they want and let them eat it. However much they want. Because a large serving of Missile Buffet is awaiting them where they can eat missiles as much as their heart desires!

I get your way of thinking and absolutely don't hold it against you but we must live in reality. There's no way a USN ship is going to blow up or even get hit it is not going to happen USN is not the Russian navy. Iran may throw missiles in the general direction of where they think US ships are but no USN ships will be hit. Is it possible? Anything is possible including me getting back my sixpack abs at my age but is it going to happen... absolutely not.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

So, they are not even waiting for the outcome of the meeting planned for tomorrow? Obviously, this whole meeting was a ruse until all assets were in place.

 

[925boy]

Do you know why US is "Abandoning talks about Iranian ballistic missiles"?

Because US has most likely already decided that it will bomb amd destroy Iran's ballistic missile infrastructure and weapons.

I mean, if war is now more or.less certain, then Iran's best option is to strike first, and if Iran has to strike first because that is Iran's best option,then the counter argument that "if Iran attacks first Iran will look like the sgressor and US will switch the narrative against Iran in the world's eyes" is invalid and irrelevant.

US can and will probably hit Iran very hard...in the short term, and after those few weeks of bombing, US will have nothing to fight with and Iran will probably come out the victor(and this assumes US doesnt start secret negotiations and making concessions privately once US realizes its in its way to losing the war). If Iran wins, gulf neighbors will submit to Iranian control in a way we have never seen in our lives.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Mixed signals here.

 

[Eşbah]

JD Vance on Iran:

The person who makes the decisions in Iran is the Supreme Leader. The President doesn't really matter.

The Foreign Minister seems to talk to the Supreme Leader and that's mainly the person that we've communicated with.

But it's a very weird country to conduct diplomacy with when you can't even talk to the person who's in charge of the country.

Trump can pick up the phone and call Putin. He can pick up the phone and call Xi. Even countries that we have very hostile relations with.

It is bizarre that we can't just talk to the actual leadership of Iran. It really makes diplomacy very difficult.



Khamenei refuses to talk and negotiate with the US directly. JD Vance is very obviously p'ssed.

 

[SolarWarden]

So, they are not even waiting for the outcome of the meeting planned for tomorrow? Obviously, this whole meeting was a ruse until all assets were in place.

That's what I've been saying. "They" (Orangeman administration) smell blood in the water they know Iran gov is at their weakest right now.

 

[StormBreaker]

A rogue Iran is in best interest for those in US who still want to keep israel away from white house.

Note that down!

 

[925boy]

Don't be overconfident. I remember you saying Hezbollah was untouchable and would ruin Israel in any upcoming war.

If hezbollah is still not potent, then why did Israel sign a fake ceasefire with lebanon and hezbollah (because it couldn't defeat hzb)only to start bombing hzb and south Lebanon after the ceasefire till now?

You might be mistaking hezbollah's silence for weakness, I am not making that mistake. Hzb did so much damage to israel in that war, and israel is still recovering from that beating and Iran's OP TP2- look at rhe like in suicide rates and protests in their army and cities.

The Israeli operation waged against Iran was more substantial than what all of us were expecting.

But the war been in a continuum.....just changes form, ao Iran can and will continue its destruction of vital Israeli targets and infrastructure that are critical to the state of israel functioning. Is eilat port back open after houthis shut it down? Northern Israel is not built back or fully repopulated, the confidence in the idf is not strong, because didnt defeat any enemy after all those clashes and deaths and destruction + costs it received and paid.

 

[Immortals]

Doesn’t seem like Friday is going to be negotiations, but terms of surrender. If Iran doesn’t accept then the military action will begin maybe as soon as that weekend.

Or maybe there is a breakthru tomm.

 

[925boy]

But people on here say US is the one collapsing and dollar is worthless.

Iranian govt made a huge mistake keeping Iran's economy and money so pegged to usd- i strongly feel Iran has missed big opportunities (which have created huge risks and problems for Iran)by pegging its currency and economic structure to the Yuan.

 

[kastor ville]

The problem is that it is offering Iran no relief from US sanctions. So, it changes nothing for Iran or the Iranians. The number 1 threat for Iran at this point is economic collapse. One month ago when protests started in the bazaar of Tehran, 1 USD was about 140K IRT. Now it is about 165K IRT and is expected to hit 200K IRT before June. Our economy is on the verge of collapse.

They're basically pulling an Iraq on us and the Islamic Republic is moving in the exact same direction that Saddam did and acting exactly as they predicted. They have destroyed our economy, targeted us with years of propaganda, and have isolated us internationally and the Islamic Republic has done everything they predicted they would do.

The Islamic Republic has acted like Saddam in recent years. Killing and murdering more civilians after each protest while accumulating wealth in their own circles through nepotism, instead of going for major and fundamental reforms. The Islamic Republic has taken millions of Iranians in their 20s, 30s and 40s hostage with their isolationist foreign policies and disconnection from the world.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. If the regime of Ayatollahs is going through the exact same path as Saddam's Iraq, then it most likely will have the same fate.

I think you may be mistaken.....a nuclear deal will be hinged upon removing the sanctions. Remember, how many times Trump said we can help make Iran great again?
I absolutely think the deal will have some sort of sanctions relief for the sale of oil and some banking relief. It has to....otherwise fk it.

 

[kastor ville]

There are 2 main camps in Iran.

1. The resistance camp led by Khamenei that believes its their duty to fight the west and liberate Muslims.

2. The US and China camp that does not believe in fighting the west.

I believe there is an internal power struggle in Iran. The US/China camp had Soleimani killed, Raisi killed, and the revolutionary generals killed during the 12 day war. I also believe they leaked IRGC positions in Syria to Israel and Nasrallahs position as well.

The goals is to shed all proxies and vassalise us into China.

That's fantasy....we have the same type of talk in the US about Epstein, deep state, Qanon....etc.
None of it is true, except the compromat pedo ring that Epstein ran.

 

[kastor ville]

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Now we didn’t need to end up in this situation. But from 1979 we took on a policy of mass antagonizing the U.S. The times were different, Soviet Union existed. China was a revolutionary state.

Then the entire world began to pivot to the West Russia and China included.

Instead Iran did bombing attacks, hostage taking, and support for groups to fight Israel or U.S. wherever they may be. It was very short sighted. But the time Khatami era rolled around and we decided to begin thawing relations it was too late, the Neocons hated us. Bibi had come into power in Israel and was telling everyone how much a problem Iran and Iraq were.

People forget that Reagan and Iran (led by Rouhani) attempted to repair the relationship after his election and keep Iran and U.S. relations in tact, but the religious revolutionary crowd was so short sighted they burned that bridge.

Iran now needs to rebuild and rearm. In 25-50 years maybe it can be independent and economically stable enough to decide to hate the whole world again, but for now it needs to realize its cornered due to its own actions.

And they're still missing the boat to this day....mistake, after mistake.