Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mulj]

I remember that time....I was livid, also it was first time I felt good about being in Iranian in the US after the embassy and hostage crisis, because it was in the papers Iran was the only country that sent in weapons to the Muslims to protect themselves against the Serbs. I never did understood why the West stood around for some 16 months and enforced and arms embargo while letting the Serbs massacre Bosnians.

Because during 19 century europeans formed geopolitical strategy what to do after dying ottoman empire.
That thought remind vivid in corners of collective west in europe and we were looked upon as foreign entity not as proper and authentic european nation/ethnicity.
It is shortest possible explanation.

 

[VCheng]

sadly, i don't think so.

Then why mislead the zealots here even further into overestimating Iran's capabilities?

 

[Immortals]

Bibi heading to White House to remind Trump that the Epstein files haven’t all been released.

 

[Immortals]

Trump says Iran offered a deal that if they offered two years ago (ie pre June strikes), Trump would have accepted “immediately”.

Jewish sources say there was no change in stance




So who is to be believed?

 

[tsunset]

 

[SolarWarden]

Things that never happened for $500 Alex.

 

[Shags101]

Weird thing I can believe that

 

[kastor ville]

Hmm, I actually believe some of it.....

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Bibi heading to White House to remind Trump that the Epstein files haven’t all been released.

It is possible including the CENTCOM commander in the talks was to express the opposition of the Pentagon to the war that Benjamin Netanyahu and his supporters want.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Trump says Iran offered a deal that if they offered two years ago (ie pre June strikes), Trump would have accepted “immediately”.

Jewish sources say there was no change in stance




So who is to be believed?

interesting Trump basically vindicates Iran who claimed the US was saying different things privately (i.e., ok with only negotiating about nuclear issues)

 

[Eşbah]

NEW — Israel's demands put forward in the talks between the US and Iran:

Complete cancellation of Iran's nuclear program.
Reduction of uranium enrichment to zero.
Reduction of uranium enrichment capability to zero.
Removal of enriched uranium from Iran.
Limiting the range of Iranian missiles to 300 km.
Elimination of the Shiite axis.
Close, strong, and genuine monitoring of the implementation of these items.

- Israel Channel 14 -



Insane demands. No self-respecting Iranian could accept these terms.

 

[StrategicBear]

NEW — Israel's demands put forward in the talks between the US and Iran:

Complete cancellation of Iran's nuclear program.
Reduction of uranium enrichment to zero.
Reduction of uranium enrichment capability to zero.
Removal of enriched uranium from Iran.
Limiting the range of Iranian missiles to 300 km.
Elimination of the Shiite axis.
Close, strong, and genuine monitoring of the implementation of these items.

- Israel Channel 14 -



Insane demands. No self-respecting Iranian could accept these terms.

Wipe them out so they can no longer make such demands.

 

[Shags101]

NEW — Israel's demands put forward in the talks between the US and Iran:

Complete cancellation of Iran's nuclear program.
Reduction of uranium enrichment to zero.
Reduction of uranium enrichment capability to zero.
Removal of enriched uranium from Iran.
Limiting the range of Iranian missiles to 300 km.
Elimination of the Shiite axis.
Close, strong, and genuine monitoring of the implementation of these items.

- Israel Channel 14 -



Insane demands. No self-respecting Iranian could accept these terms.

i think the missiles being limited 150 miles would be the most humiliating thing and coming from Israel is even funnier because they keep saying those missiles were basically ineffective it really makes you wonder what they hit on those bases that they won’t let anyone report on.

 

[HAIDER]

NEW — Israel's demands put forward in the talks between the US and Iran:

Complete cancellation of Iran's nuclear program.
Reduction of uranium enrichment to zero.
Reduction of uranium enrichment capability to zero.
Removal of enriched uranium from Iran.
Limiting the range of Iranian missiles to 300 km.
Elimination of the Shiite axis.
Close, strong, and genuine monitoring of the implementation of these items.

- Israel Channel 14 -



Insane demands. No self-respecting Iranian could accept these terms.

US has thrown too many demands ...and if few will achieve will be great US accomplishment .

 

[LX1111]

NEW — Israel's demands put forward in the talks between the US and Iran:

Complete cancellation of Iran's nuclear program.
Reduction of uranium enrichment to zero.
Reduction of uranium enrichment capability to zero.
Removal of enriched uranium from Iran.
Limiting the range of Iranian missiles to 300 km.
Elimination of the Shiite axis.
Close, strong, and genuine monitoring of the implementation of these items.

- Israel Channel 14 -



Insane demands. No self-respecting Iranian could accept these terms.

If I were Iran, I would agree with these points. Iran's nuclear program consumed vast amounts of national resources and led to decades of sanctions from the US and the West, but ultimately Iran failed to develop nuclear weapons. In other words, Iran paid a huge price but gained nothing.
I also agree to abandon the Shiite Crescent. Hamas has been completely defeated, Hezbollah leaders have been assassinated, and the Assad government has been overthrown. Iran's only Shiite allies now are the Houthis and Iraqi Shiite militias.Regardless of whether Iran substantially abandons the Shiite Crescent, the Shiite forces in the Middle East have already been significantly weakened. They are currently unlikely to pose an effective threat to Israel.