Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Ok, they will bomb Iran weeks long then what if Iran still retains its capability to fire his own missiles?
If this happens Iran has no other choice then to burn everything around itself.
How? The IAF is nowhere near as capable in sustaining air operations and having air supremacy over Iran airspace unlike the US. IAF was able to penetrate Iran airspace at will bombing whatever targets but they had no staying capability yet if you remember IAF was able to degrade IRGC missile capability that by the end of the war they were launching around a dozen a day. USAF and USN once over Iranian airspace they are going to stay making it very difficult for the missile launchers that survived the first 48 hours of the air campaign under heavy EW to coordinate any missile launch. It is going to be total electronic blackout over Iran a capability the IDF didn't have.
 
How? The IAF is nowhere near as capable in sustaining air operations and having air supremacy over Iran airspace unlike the US. IAF was able to penetrate Iran airspace at will bombing whatever targets but they had no staying capability yet if you remember IAF was able to degrade IRGC missile capability that by the end of the war they were launching around a dozen a day. USAF and USN once over Iranian airspace they are going to stay making it very difficult for the missile launchers that survived the first 48 hours of the air campaign under heavy EW to coordinate any missile launch. It is going to be total electronic blackout over Iran a capability the IDF didn't have.

USAF & Israeli airforce will have complete air dominance over Iran. That's for sure. I don't understand why its difficult to accept for some people. It was already demonstrated by Israel in the 12 day war.
 
How? The IAF is nowhere near as capable in sustaining air operations and having air supremacy over Iran airspace unlike the US. IAF was able to penetrate Iran airspace at will bombing whatever targets but they had no staying capability yet if you remember IAF was able to degrade IRGC missile capability that by the end of the war they were launching around a dozen a day. USAF and USN once over Iranian airspace they are going to stay making it very difficult for the missile launchers that survived the first 48 hours of the air campaign under heavy EW to coordinate any missile launch. It is going to be total electronic blackout over Iran a capability the IDF didn't have.
Israeli attack on Iran had the factor of being surprised. IAF did not bring in fighter jets, instead, they used drones and standoff weapons such as air launched ballistic missiles.

It was a sudden attack assisted by internal saboteurs inside Iran. Almost 90% of damage was done by small drones that hit radars, missile launchers and other critical assets.

USN's ACs are not a major threat, main problem is fixed bases in countries around Iran such as Iraq, Qatar, Turkey, KSA and Jordan specially.

ACs are the most vulnerable assets of USN and USN won't benefit from advantages of surprise attack.

Everything depends on Iran's A2/AD capability and the denial range. The forward base ships will be deployed to entrance of Indian ocean armed with anti ship ballistic missiles, fast attack boats, cruise missile launchers, drones and air defense systems plus the anti submarine small boats. They will be protected by IRGCN's Soleimani class frigates armed with airdefense systems.

Before even reaching Arabian sea, ballistic missiles will rain over American carrier groups from forward base ships.

Nearly 4-6 Fateh class submarines will monitor the entrance and deny USN with its long range Tomahawk CMs.

USN cannot be kept outside Persian Gulf for too long but before the first line of defense breaks apart, IRGCN and IRIN will be prepared to bomb infiltrating assets of USN.

If the war takes place, it will not be a short time engagement. Until death of each and every American soldiers within the range of Iranian missiles, the war will continue.

Easiest and most effective target is US forces deployed to Kuwait. Expect thousands of KIA in that country.

Main targets and most important ones are Israel, Jordan, Kuwait and Qatar. Others are negligible.
 
Trump may be a bully, but here we don't entertain the thought of accommodating him because we're in the business of overthrowing White Supremacy off the face of this Earth, and Trump and USA's fall is the first step towards this goal of ours.

Unfortunately, so far they are still succeeding. Still imposing their hegemony. Yes Trump is bully and he is delivering. He just gave United States the world's largest oil reserves. After kidnapping Venezuela president the now govt setup in Venezuela is merely a puppets, they are directly in control of US. Trump has made a deal with india to sell them Venezuelan oil. Trump is asking China to come and buy Venezuelan oil. Because now 99% of profits goes to the US. Now venezuelan oil (World's largest oil reserves) are now basically american. Now just think how many decades or even centuries it can serve the US interests and add more time to US hegemony. So, they are still succeeding.

I have a bad feeling about their plans for Iran too. Iran cannot match US war machine. However, Iran can make the cost of war high for americans only if Iran don't let the americans strike first. If Iran acts as a good boy, hoping Trump will not attack and suddenly we hear breaking news that US forces have launched attack then the very first target will be Iran's missile launchers. They may not destroy all launchers in first go but many will be wasted before being used. Whoever attacks first do the maximum damage. IMO, Iran should consider deployment of forces and carrier groups at its door step as declaration of war. Preparation & deployment is first major warfare stage. Strike when you still can. I was against this option earlier as it would guarantee the war but now i feel when US is bringing second carrier group that means US has decided to go into war. Deploying carrier group requires extreme resources. They are not doing this just to show off. They are doing full offensive preparations.
 
USAF & Israeli airforce will have complete air dominance over Iran. That's for sure. I don't understand why its difficult to accept for some people. It was already demonstrated by Israel in the 12 day war.
Seriously dude? Bunch of drones cannot bring you air supremacy over an other country as big as Iran.
 
I'm not sure how an Aircraft Carrier wouldn't sink it it was hit by a Mach 10+ missile striking it from above...

That would definitely disable the carrier and maybe even sink it if carrying very heavy payyload. But question is, which is the missile in Iran's inventory with pin point accuracy, 1000 km+ range, mach10+ speed and that can hit a moving target at 60 kph. Carrier is constantly moving at 30 knots. I don't think even Russia would have had such missile. Maybe China would have because of their enormous technological & space capabilities.
 
What will stop USAF & Israeli airforce ?
Not USAF but USN's aircraft carriers. Again, its all about Iran's A2/AD capability and its range of denial.

I assure you it would be more than thousands of KMs.
 
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Not USAF but USN's aircraft carriers. Again, its all about Iran's A2/AD capability and its range of denial.

I assure you it would be more than thousands of KMs.

Iran should not let enemy deploy with full scale at its doorsteps. IMO, Iran should keep firing "warning shots". Some cheap missiles or drones as warning shots and not neccessarily targetted right at CSG but at some kms offset. Tell clearly that these are warning shots to avoid any casualities and to tell americans to back off from attacking us. The biggest advantage is that enemy resources will bleed in these warning shots. Everytime they detect vectors fired, they will fly their aircrafts from the deck. That is tiring exercise adding psychological toll. Secondly, they will fire their SM-2s or other expensive & limited missiles on incoming vectors (as they dont take risks). The key is Iran do not have to be passive. Iran should bleed their resources continously. If Iran let US attack Iran first then US will target launchers first. USN aircrafts, strategic bombers, Israeli airforce, destroyers & submarines all together will be firing at 100s of ballistic missile sites. Lot of Iran's launchers & missiles will be wasted before they can be used. So, Iran should never let enemy attack at their time of choosing, keep bleeding their resources before they can plan and execute anything, don't let them plan and execute their D-day plan. Create massive disruptions

If they are running low on their interceptor missiles before their D-day then they will not attack. Some day fire drones, some day launch 100 of missile boats that go few kms ahead and then return. So enemy keep guessing and keep bleeding their resources. Iran's benefit is that it is on its own turf. US has come with limited number of resources, if you bleed them before their D-day then you may even avoid war. This scenario gives off-ramp to US as well. As there will be no causalities.
 
I don't know why Iran is not declaring deployment of war machine at its door step as declaration of war.

Even when first CSG was coming. Iran should have had declared that if it comes within 1500 km then we will consider it as act of war. As it was by all means coming for Iran. Trump was saying from day one that our big and beautiful ships are heading to Iran. Should never let your sworn enemy in striking distance.

As they approach striking distance then one has all the rights to fire "warning shots". Those warning shots keep enemy away. You just can't let them sit and stay at striking distance of you while they prepare and are showing their intentions. Being passive will mean defeat.
 
Look who is simping for UAE and warning Saudis


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