Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

 

[Bharatah]

No way they’re giving anyone a month advance notice through these reports

All of this are fake news about hybrid warfare. For over a month they've been saying "Iran will be invaded in 24 hours" and nothing happened (as I predicted). Open war against Iran today is unfeasible; it was unfeasible 20 years ago when Iran didn't have drones, missiles, or nuclear weapons... today it's even worse. And if they were going to do something, it would have to be done during the "12-day war," then the US could have joined the war and that would have been it, and they didn't... now, Iran has already rebuilt its defense systems, has new technologies (like shutting down satellites/Starlink), are they going to wage war? No, they won't.

 

[PakSword]

All of this is fake news about hybrid warfare. For over a month they've been saying "Iran will be invaded in 24 hours" and nothing happened (as I predicted). Open war against Iran today is unfeasible; it was unfeasible 20 years ago when Iran didn't have drones, missiles, or nuclear weapons... today it's even worse. And if they were going to do something, it would have to be done during the "12-day war," then the US could have joined the war and that would have been it, and they didn't... now, Iran has already rebuilt its defense systems, has new technologies (like shutting down satellites/Starlink), are they going to wage war? No, they won't.

Iran should also announce that it has nukes.. even if doesn't. Israel will start shitting its pants and will force the US to leave Iran alone.

 

[Bharatah]

Iran should also announce that it has nukes.. even if doesn't. Israel will start shitting its pants and will force the US to leave Iran alone.

Iran likely possesses nuclear weapons (either built or purchased), either within Iran, or in Yemen, or even in Afghanistan, but it cannot announce this openly because it would be a "violation of the NPT" and would undermine Iran's narrative of "always complying with international law, unlike Israel." Iran would have to withdraw from the NPT and wait three months before conducting a public nuclear test, and Russia/China would have to veto any subsequent resolution condemning Iran.

NOTE : Lavrov is correct - under the NPT, Iran has the sovereign right to peaceful uranium enrichment with IAEA oversight. No proven military diversion exists. Hypocrisy in enforcement undermines global non-proliferation credibility. Respect for international law matters

 

[PK781]

At the minimum, if attacked, iran must ensure it hits and torches these little fake kinglets in the gcc for giving bases to the zionists
Make it hell for everyone in the region! Start ww3 if necessary by forcing other nations to get involved. **** it all up for everyone to suffer!!

 

[StrategicBear]

I have a suggestion : In Total War with US, Iran needs to diversify its retaliation options too so as not give the enemy more fronts to fight in so their planes can't concentrate only inside Iranian airspace to hunt for BMs and Anti-Ship Missiles, so why not Iran send some IRGC Special Forces to Iraq, infiltration to Gulf countries, Jordan and such, so as to coordinate Local Resistance or Collaborators hired to launch one-way only joint Kamikaze attacks with both their mobile squad-level infantry raids on US Bases, aided by Kamikaze Drones they can operate via fiber-optic cables?

This way, Iran can attack US bases via Special Forces too+local short-range kamikaze drones instead of having to let enemy airpower focus only on attacking targets inside Iran.

 

[Immortals]

After Iran, the Zionists will turn their sights onto Turkey.

The first stage is nearly complete:

 

[kastor ville]

Israel will just sit back and watch. They never actually help America in any of its wars. They plunge America into costly wars. Our soldiers, if they die, will have died thanks to Israel. Israel can't hide its excitement and keeps trying to egg Americans on for war.

There is nothing to gain for the US in this war. There is a lot to gain for Israel. It takes out yet another regional competitor that's on its way to develop better missile technology than Israel, and becoming a nuclear threshold state.

It will then focus on it's next competitor which it sees as Turkey. And will use the current situation in Syria as casus belli to incriminate Turkey, levy US sanctions on it and start a military conflict.

As Iranians say "Dirt on their heads".....they're picking off Muslim countries one by one, and instead of uniting they're hosting enemy aircraft and bases......once we come out of this, we should take out the weak GCC fkers, Qatar is hosting the biggest air base....I know they're friendly, but fk them anyway. Bahrain would be good too.
This is just embarrassing, once Iran is neutralized, we'll see what happens to Turkey and Pakistan.....neither will see a hot war, but they will wreck them economically.

 

[kastor ville]

I have a suggestion : In Total War with US, Iran needs to diversify its retaliation options too so as not give the enemy more fronts to fight in so their planes can't concentrate only inside Iranian airspace to hunt for BMs and Anti-Ship Missiles, so why not Iran send some IRGC Special Forces to Iraq, infiltration to Gulf countries, Jordan and such, so as to coordinate Local Resistance or Collaborators hired to launch one-way only joint Kamikaze attacks with both their mobile squad-level infantry raids on US Bases, aided by Kamikaze Drones they can operate via fiber-optic cables?

This way, Iran can attack US bases via Special Forces too+local short-range kamikaze drones instead of having to let enemy airpower focus only on attacking targets inside Iran.

This is a good idea..... We should send Special Forces into Iraq to get close to Jordan. Using drones, that could create a lot of confusion, and prevent aircraft from taking off during those crucial early hours of the war.

 

[kastor ville]

After Iran, the Zionists will turn their sights onto Turkey.

The first stage is nearly complete:

Shit, I literally wrote about this....I had no idea their money had crashed. Amazing.....it's as if they're executing a plan.

 

[OldTwilight]

Shit, I literally wrote about this....I had no idea their money had crashed. Amazing.....it's as if they're executing a plan.

Don't worry about them , Turkey is main regional agent of Israel/NATO for past 20 years against resistance.

The Turks thought if they play as lapdog of west , They will reward them , they forget their heritage, even existence of Turkey is not acceptable by the west.
They had 400 years conflict with Ottoman .

Without Russia as a threat, Iran neutralized , the west will go against Turkey , Egypt , Pakistan to eliminate them as a potential threat ...

 

[Garcia Sea]

This situation arose because Iran's leadership panicked and agreed to a ceasefire in just 12 days last June.
At that time, most direct attacks were carried out by the IDF, and attacks on oil infrastructure were also restrained.
Therefore, Iran was fully capable of enduring a prolonged conflict, and it presented an excellent opportunity to learn how to fight against Western air forces.
Yemen, having faced years of bombing by the Saudi military—far weaker than the USAF—has transformed into a nation far more resilient than Iran, enabling it to repel US attacks.
Iran, however, cowardly missed its only chance to build immunity by agreeing to a ceasefire. It now faces the worst-case scenario: relentless destruction of its homeland by massive US airstrikes.
This may sound cruel to the Iranian people, but if Iran has any chance of defending itself, it must absolutely refuse to agree to a ceasefire this time.
No matter the blows it suffers, it must never agree to a ceasefire at any halfway point.
Iraq, which surrendered in the Gulf War, subsequently saw 500,000 to 1 million people killed over the following decade or more, its territory fragmented and dismantled, and its oil fields seized.
If Iran does not wish to suffer the same fate, its leaders must make the ruthless decision to accept sacrifice. That is the reality of the international community: a lawless jungle.
If they lack that resolve, they should have surrendered unconditionally to the United States ten years ago.

 

[vizier]

If Iran plans a counter attack instead of a preemptive strike to Usa build up which(counterattack) by the way is a wiser choice(because trump would declare war if Iran attacks first like ww2 Japan and more usa assets will be at risk to be taken out making them more vulnurable as well in a counter attack scenario) there should be several things that needs to be done to absorb the initial potential usa-israel attack with minimal damage for a more effective-deterrant Iranian counter attack. It provides a false sense of security to install more ads radars and ballistic missiles but they are installed at static positions that can be detected by spy satellites and targeted thereafter easily by saturation attacks. Ballistic missile tels detected at the shores would be initial usa-israel targets for example.

- There should be many false targets to reduce the effect of initial attack for a more effective counter attack. wooden copies(recent technology is inflatable balloons that emulate the infrared signature as well but wooden models are better for imitating sharp edges and against visual detection by spy satellites or sar equipped planes) of missile launcher tels towed around rapidly. As well as replicas of radars and ads. False rf emitter decoys can be used with mock ups of ads.
If they stay at the same place they will be filtered out as decoys so these decoys should be carried around rapidly as well. Silo mock ups can be static but can be on many places they are wooden launch doors only.

-Ads are both visible to spy satellites and elint. So they should be moved around very frequently as well. They are not detected real time and attacked from longer ranges immediately but they still need to move to different places very rapidly just like Ukraine does against Ruaf saturation attacks.

Negotiations can be going positively but it shouldnt provide a false sense of security even after a deal is set with usa. israel can still attack anytime. Also last june usa also joined the attack after israel. So alert condition should continue with varying degrees even after the negotiations end.

 

[OldTwilight]

a none nuclear power can not conduct preemptive attack to a nuclear power ...

 

[Falcon29]

**Wall Street Journal report:** Trump was briefed on a series of military courses of action in Iran — all of them designed to inflict maximum damage on the regime and its regional proxies in the Middle East.

The options include a proposal for an operation that would result in the elimination of numerous political and military leaders with the aim of toppling the regime, or a limited military operation option that would focus on targets related to the nuclear program and the ballistic missile program.

The military force the United States is currently concentrating is the largest it has deployed in the Middle East since the invasion of Iraq in 2003.