Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Araghchi says US has not demanded zero enrichment. Wtf?

 

[ShapurII]

that is not a logarithmic chart.

you talk about exponential growth then use the average appreciation per year since 1979? that doesn't make sense since you just admitted the majority of that appreciation occurred in recent years.

Russia is not under tougher sanctions than Iran. European countries like Slovakia and Hungry still buy Russian oil. Not to mention India, Turkey, UAE, etc. Only China buys Iranian oil.

I know it's not, I'm saying that it should be, because you're dealing with exponential growth. When you are dealing with an exponential phenomenon, your chart should be log/time to give a clearer image.

I used a geometric mean, which is used to find the average rate of growth in exponential phenomena. I didn't use an arithmetic mean.

Russia is under the world's most extensive sanctions, even more numerous than Iran. You know what Russia did differently? They didn't manipulate their currency to steal from their own people. When sanctions hit Russia, Russia immediately raised bank interest to keep people's money at the hands of the government to control inflation and currency devaluation. The opposite of this is Turkey. When inflation hit Turkey, Erdogan refused to increase interest rates and changed the head of the Central Bank in Turkey and look what has happened to the Turkish Lira as well.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Araghchi says US has not demanded zero enrichment. Wtf?

Iran has been saying that America's negotiating positions differ from their public statements for a while.

 

[Psyko70]

These negotiations are just for usa to buy time to plan better.

If the zionist want iran to be destroyed, no matter the conclusion of talks attack will happen.

This is 100s of years of planing of zionists. Negotiations will delay it but will end iran as it is now.

 

[tsunset]

Reza Pahlavi, between the time where he steps a foot out of his plane to get into his car, will have a hole right between his left and right eye in Iran

It is best for his personal safety that he stays in the United States

 

[Mehdipersian]

Your views are like an Arab, who is about to get booted out of Iran soon after the US and Israel attack Iran.

Lol ,I never seen an Iranian want war against Iran in my life.
You should show us are you Iranian or a troll or a jew

 

[Psyko70]

Reza Pahlavi, between the time where he steps a foot out of his plane to get into his car, will have a hole right between his left and right eye in Iran

Hello,
He will only come When his dads will make sure its safe before the kid can come to playground to play

 

[ShapurII]

It is not nice to see such weakness but we have bigger problems right now. I was the one talking about the influence of pan Turks in the IRI years ago (when it was less popular and I got a lot of criticism), so don't get confused that I have any love for these people.

Ideally, we would arm Armenia if Azerbaijan refuses to cut ties with Israel. But Armenia is not even on board with that. So we should bide our time and get along with Azerbaijan for now. Azerbaijan is not Israel with control of the US government and layers of ABM shields, they are not an immediate threat.

Ideally, we should go for major reforms instead of thinking about regional conflicts. There is a huge gap between people born after 1985 and the current system of governance.

We should put a leash on these trustees that are impoverishing us to increase the value of their investments in the Emirates, Turkey or the Western countries. We should review our banking system too.

Only after we have settled our internal problems, we should start to think about negotiation with the US, or regional adventures.

Russian style - and their oligarchs planted their money in the UK - which was later seized at the start of the Ukrainian war.

Yes, exactly. They are investing that money in the West and countries like the UAE. And only return the money to Iran when they have already milked every possible profit out of it. Millions of Iranians are living in poverty so these people can maximize the profits of their investments before returning our money to the country.

 

[Meengla]

A nation that bases her deterrence on militias and some corrupt murderous politician kept in power by Russia and our resources should expect this outcome. We had warned about all of this for years.

Have to agree with you on that. Iran overplayed its cards, over reached, annoyed its neighbors starting 1979. Fighting the lone Superpower and its powerful regional and extra-regional allies is a tough businesses. An impossible one for a country like Iran.

The IRGC was recognized as a terrorist organization after January protests. Trump did that during his first term but Europe refused to do that until only recently. I suppose when you kill your own people, you are giving foreign countries an excuse to label you like that.

The EU/Europeans had long resisted calling IRGC a 'terrorist' organization and kept on trading with Iran until just now when Trump has browbeaten them to do otherwise, perhaps as compensation to let Greenland be.

There are no qualitative measures against Iran that did not exist two years ago.

I am surprised and sad to see you don't see the financial and military noose tightening against Iran since early 2025 and there is no end in sight for that.

 

[ShapurII]

Lol ,I never seen an Iranian want war against Iran in my life.
You should show us are you Iranian or a troll or a jew

But we have seen lots of Arabs like you who wanted Iran to go to war with Israel and the United States over Palestine. Your messages are still here.

Funny how despicable Basijis are now talking about wanting war against Iran. It's hilarious. You bastards ached for war with the US and Israel over the issue of Palestine, which does not concern us at all. And now you hypocrites talk about others wanting war to get rid of you?

 

[Watandar]

Reza Pahlavi, between the time where he steps a foot out of his plane to get into his car, will have a hole right between his left and right eye in Iran

Pahlavi reminds of this guy , who encouraged Bush to attack Iraq and also provided bogus intelligence that Bush/Cheney sold to the public.

Ahmed Chalabi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Iranian diaspora also reminds me of the Iraqis who suddenly apparitioned in the media, talking about how terrible Saddam was and how great the invasion and occupation of Iraq would be and the reconstruction would be a piece of cake with all that Iraqi oil money. Really feels like that script is being repeated.

 

[Mehdipersian]

But we have seen lots of Arabs like you who wanted Iran to go to war with Israel and the United States over Palestine. Your messages are still here.

Funny how despicable Basijis are now talking about wanting war against Iran. It's hilarious. You bastards ached for war with the US and Israel over the issue of Palestine, which does not concern us at all. And now you hypocrites talk about others wanting war to get rid of you?

Stop talking nonsense and prove to us that you are Iranian. Otherwise, you are nothing more than a worthless Jewish troll.

 

[ShapurII]

Have to agree with you on that. Iran overplayed its cards, over reached, annoyed its neighbors starting 1979. Fighting the lone Superpower and its powerful regional and extra-regional allies is a tough businesses. An impossible one for a country like Iran.

Not only it is impossible, it is none of our business to do that.
How many Palestinians do you think will shed tears for the Iranians that will be killed in the next war? Not many, I can guarantee you that.

The EU/Europeans had long resisted calling IRGC a 'terrorist' organization and kept on trading with Iran until just now when Trump has browbeaten them to do otherwise, perhaps as compensation to let Greenland be.

It is because they know that the regime is not as powerful as it used to be. When people see you have too many internal issues, they see your weakness.
I remember quite well that the US always said war with Iran would unite Iranians against Israel and the US. They no longer fear that, you know why? Because they know that the Iranians are tired of what is happening inside Iran.

The real deterrence of the regime in Iran came from internal support. That's why the US did not invade Iran in 2006. Iran didn't have even one-tenth of the missile force it has now back then, and yet Bush never dared to touch Iran.

I am surprised and sad to see you don't see the financial and military noose tightening against Iran since early 2025 and there is no end in sight for that.

Because economic numbers paint a different picture. Our oil export has increased but the money is not entering Iran. Please read what I have written about the trustees. They are the main reason for Iran's current economic crisis. Even more than Trump's sanctions.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Pahlavi reminds of this guy , who encouraged Bush to attack Iraq and also provided bogus intelligence that Bush/Cheney sold to the public.

Ahmed Chalabi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Iranian diaspora also reminds me of the Iraqis who suddenly apparitioned in the media, talking about how terrible Saddam was and how great the invasion and occupation of Iraq would be and the reconstruction would be a piece of cake with all that Iraqi oil money. Really feels like that script is being repeated.

Oh please, no comparison. The Persian diaspora is exponentially larger than whatever Iraqis were in 2003. They are wealthier, with a sense of identity (Persian vs different group of Iraqis).
Many of the Persians are well spoken and photogenic - which are effective tools in a Western beauty standard dominated media.
Very few Iraqis except that Chalabi dude wanted war. There's no comparison

 

[mangekyo]

Ideally, we should go for major reforms instead of thinking about regional conflicts. There is a huge gap between people born after 1985 and the current system of governance.

We should put a leash on these trustees that are impoverishing us to increase the value of their investments in the Emirates, Turkey or the Western countries. We should review our banking system too.

Only after we have settled our internal problems, we should start to think about negotiation with the US, or regional adventures.


Yes, exactly. They are investing that money in the West and countries like the UAE. And only return the money to Iran when they have already milked every possible profit out of it. Millions of Iranians are living in poverty so these people can maximize the profits of their investments before returning our money to the country.

Agreed. We should fight corruption and mismanagement. Not wish for foreign countries to bomb us and balkanize us.