Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

He's right in 1 thing, separatist flags were seen in Pahalvist demonstrations.
This is real, i've saw it with my own eyes, they accept Kurdish separatists in their rallies and openly says that a new Iran should allow Kurdish and Azeri independance for the sake of "freedom" and Jewish personal interests

They are ready to kill their mothers if Jews ask them to do so, they are only nationalist against Arabs and muslims, but when its Jews and whites they meatride them and give out everything if they ask to
 
Wondering a few things

- How effective is it to cover entrances and other nuclear sites with concrete and soil, cant bunker busters still get through them?

- Israel committed Genocide in Gaza, destroyed all of Gaza and still failed to rescue any hostages and destroy hamas, what makes trumpy think he can stop Iranian missile attacks for a country 3 times size of Ukraine.

- Does Iran have any special Aces up its sleeve, any super accurate, and hypersonic fast missiles with massive destructive power? If they do may need to drop one on Dimona.

- Given what we saw in the 12-Day war, are there any realistic ways to defend or keep those missile bases operational?

- Does Iran have the capability to deploy mines across Strait of Hormuz within an hr if given the go ahead?
 
Its Reddit, probably an Israeli posing as a Palestinian like the thousands of accounts posing as Palestinians and Iranians on middle eastern and world news subreddits
Most Palestinians are very sectarian and hate Iran and Shias. Even HAMAS fought Hezbollah, remember? They love Saddam and Jolani.
 
Gen-Z are grandkids of those who left in 79. Parents of gen-z learnt it by being bombarded by anti-Iranian propaganda from Hollywood, the media, the school system and growing up in a society that hates Iranians. When they asked their parents if all this propaganda about Iran is really true, that Iranians are just a bunch of uncivilized terrorist retards, they said
A: «It’s like this now but before the revolution, Iran was this and that.»
B: «it’s like this now, but 2500 years ago before Islam, Persia was this and that» Its a carefully engineered psyop.

Knowing from the Pakistani diaspora in the West, often reflected in this forum, those who grew up in the West or came to the West at an early age might as well belong to their origins only in name. And thus you see them in rather expansive mode in this forum, musing about grand plans and visions, perhaps sitting in their parents' basements.
I advise Pakistanis in this forum to be mindful of them and I advise Iranians to be mindful of their counterparts.
 
Most Palestinians are very sectarian and hate Iran and Shias. Even HAMAS fought Hezbollah, remember? They love Saddam and Jolani.
I'm not saying they are with Iran, i know a lot of Palestinians hates Iran a lot and sides with Jewlani/other cucks in the region

Just saying that Reddit is filled with LARPers posing as Iranians/Palestinians
 
Those satellite images are 10 days old. Iran has been first fortifying then burying to reduce impact at its nuclear sites.

Leaving the entrances open with war on the horizon is stupid, but sure it is possible. It would defeat the purpose of even fortifying them as a direct large PGM can still collapse the entrance.

No indications that Pick Axe is gonna be operational anytime soon. It was supposed to be an assembly plant for centrifuges (and possible second enrichment hall) after the above ground pilot assembling plant was sabotaged by Israel using a bomb in one of the machines tables.

I don’t think iran would try to breakout using Pick Axe. It’s basically just Fordow 2. A long term site.

So what benefit would there be not burying the entrances?
you said it was buried

but it is not buried

Esfahan is buried since the stockpile of HEU is there. Fordow is buried because it's destroyed and ongoing access is not needed. Pick Axe is much more resilient than both those and not hiding anything there and construction is ongoing. I do not think it will be buried. we can see, that 'good ISIS' organisation releases new images every few days.
 
Fordow is buried because it's destroyed and ongoing access is not needed.

Fordow’s entrances were buried before the attack. no?

Pick Axe is much more resilient than both those

In what sense does that apply to entrances of these sites. A mountain entrance can still be collapsed due to the thin bedrock that makes up the entrance. You can try reinforcing it, but a tunnel entrance still follows the laws of physics.

Pick Axe benefit is the hall is under more bedrock than Fordow. Its resiliency isn’t tied to its entrances unless you have other information on the site indicating this.

and not hiding anything there and construction is ongoing

it’s been almost 9 months since June attacks and the site is not close to completion. It sure looks like iran is using it as a negotiating chip just like it used Arak and dragged their feet at completing that for years and ultimately mothballed it.

Why would Iran bring in its valuable centrifuges production machines into a site that could be closed off again rather than use a clandestine site? Centrifuges are delicate machines and can be harmed by extreme vibrations (from a massive bunker going off) or from the rapid loss of power (some IR centrifuges can survive this).
 
We cant fight with US + Israel + Jew controlled EU and Arab countries simultaneously but we will see things in this war being done by IRGC that not even USSR could do to US in its prime. It will become battlefield of technology observation for Super and Mid powers.

If Iranians fight as one nation, then I'd put my money on them to eventually come out ahead. They would pay a heavy price but capitulation would only mean no more a sovereign Iran and to be bombed by Israel at will--and with possible fragmentation. But Iranians would have to fight as one nation to the fullest. Pakistanis would have fought India in a land war should it come to that in May 2025 with millions marching to the border to fight. Iran would have to do the same.

And Iranians are not in as hopeless situation as some make it out to be because they have many juicy targets within their reach and the biggest factor is the American unwillingness to absorb the body bags; Trump has not even created a foundation to justify attacking Iran, let alone make a 'case' to accept any number of American casualties. The political cost is too huge for even Trump; Democrats are waiting on the sideline for him to make a grave mistake.
 

War on Iran Is the Opposite of ‘Realism’​

Don’t do it, Mr. President.

No one really knows what goes on inside the mind of President Donald Trump.

But judging by the significant, ongoing U.S. military buildup in the Middle East, one can make an informed guess: He thinks a big war with Iran is a good idea.

If that’s the case, he’s wrong—dangerously so—and he needs a dose of realism.

This administration already claims to be guided by a “flexible realism” in foreign policy. But no variant of realism, however flexible, recommends a U.S. war on the Islamic Republic at this juncture.

Realism holds that geography and the relative distribution of military power among states determine national interests. Iran, being a middling power on the other side of the world, does not pose a military threat to America, the world’s leading superpower.

An implication of realism’s emphasis on power and geography is that realists don’t focus much on what kind of regime a state has. The Islamic Republic is a theocracy with a bad human rights record, but that’s nigh irrelevant from a realist perspective. The purpose of U.S. foreign policy is to promote the safety and prosperity of Americans, not to turn faraway states into liberal democracies, which we’re not good at doing anyway.

America does have an interest in preventing states from developing nuclear weapons, but that’s not necessarily an interest worth going to war over. Tehran’s previous compliance with the defunct 2015 Iran nuclear deal and its present willingness to negotiate shows that, in the case of Iran, this interest can be achieved diplomatically.

From a realist perspective, a U.S. war with Iran seems not merely unnecessary, but obviously foolish. Realists believe that the U.S. should—and does—intervene abroad when necessary to prevent the rise of a “regional hegemon.” We don’t want any foreign state to dominate its neighborhood and project power into other neighborhoods, especially ours.

So, what’s all this got to do with Iran? Really: What the hell does this have to do with Iran?

Iran is not a regional hegemon nor on the verge of becoming one. Indeed, it can barely claim a sphere of influence within its own borders; Israel, with relative ease, established air superiority over Iran in the 12-Day War last June. Iran certainly isn’t poised to dominate the Middle East, a region that includes zero close Iranian allies and multiple rivals of comparable or superior military might.

But the Middle East does feature an aspiring regional hegemon—and this is where America’s belligerence vis-à-vis Iran starts to look foolish.

The region’s aspiring hegemon is Israel, America’s very “special” ally. Israel deems Iran a big obstacle in its quest for regional hegemony. If the Islamic Republic is replaced with a pro-Israel regime, or if the Iranian state collapses, Israel would not only be rid of a chief adversary—it would be freed up to exert power across a region that is vital to the global economy.

In other words, the U.S. appears poised to create a regional hegemon, not prevent one, in the Middle East. That wouldn’t be a good example of “realism,” flexible or otherwise.

Some U.S. officials have argued that taking out the Islamic Republic would enable Washington to retrench from the Middle East, since it would no longer need to check Iran. A realist would advise something like the opposite: Washington should withdraw U.S. forces and assets from the region to allow a natural equilibrium to emerge. Iran, Turkey, and Arab states have grown sufficiently concerned about Israel’s regional designs that they may set their differences aside and collectively balance against it. That’s the best-case scenario from the realist American perspective.

Unfortunately, we’re instead careering toward a big war that, if it “succeeds,” will harm America’s geopolitical interests. And if the war is a failure, things might get very ugly indeed.

Analysts have warned that Iran intends to launch a ferocious retaliation if the U.S. strikes, to restore deterrence. The Trump administration appears to have taken those warnings seriously—but that doesn’t mean it’s backing off. Quite the contrary. In my assessment, the U.S. is preparing a massive attack meant to overwhelm Iran’s defenses and decapitate its leadership to prevent the kind of retaliation envisioned by nervous analysts.

After last year’s U.S. strikes on key Iranian nuclear facilities, Iran hawks mocked antiwar conservatives for predicting a catastrophic war involving mass casualties. That mockery was unfair in the case of The American Conservative. As I showed in a column defending our coverage, TAC had drawn attention to the possibility of a limited engagement.

But a limited engagement is more difficult to imagine now. The U.S. is planning a huge strike, and Iran is planning a huge retaliation; consequently, a huge war seems very much worth worrying about. Plus, it’s not clear what targeted strikes would look like this time around, because it’s not clear which targets it makes sense for Trump to strike.

And we shouldn’t let the Iran hawks intimidate us into declining to warn about worst-case scenarios. If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz, a chokepoint for global trade, an oil crisis could set off global economic contraction.

Nor is that the absolute worst case. Iran might manage to strike a U.S. warship, perhaps even bombard an aircraft carrier, jeopardizing fighter jets in the process. Even worse, Iranian ballistic missiles could kill U.S. troops, who are sitting ducks in the region. Iran’s supreme leader has threatened an all-out regional war.

There’s no telling how Trump would react to the loss of U.S. troops, and I’d prefer not to find out.

Nuclear escalation isn’t out of the question, even if the U.S. itself is unlikely to push the big red button. Iran might choose to direct its ferocious retaliation against Israel, raining ballistic missiles down on the small country. In such a scenario, Israel could conceivably launch a nuclear attack out of desperation.

The U.S. simply has no interests at stake that justify courting such risks. And even if America’s military buildup in the Middle East is intended to enhance its bargaining position in negotiations with Iran, it raises the chances of war. The U.S. got dragged into war with Iran by Israel last June, and to avoid a repeat, Trump needs to convey to Israel that he wouldn’t provide backup this time around. But sending a third of America’s navy to the region sends the opposite signal.

Among staff writers at TAC, I’ve probably been the most positive about Trump’s foreign policy. But contemplating a war with Iran fills me with a nauseating dread. President Trump must be urged to listen to reason, and to realism.

Andrew Day​

Andrew Day is the senior editor of The American Conservative. He has a PhD in political science from Northwestern University.
 

Protracted war with Iran would haunt Trump in November​

By Emily Jashinsky

February 19, 2026 - 8:00pm​


Over the summer, I browsed the various kitschy offerings at a Trump-themed merchandise store on a sweltering day in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. T-shirts emblazoned with “OPERATION MIDNIGHT HAMMER” — the official name for Trump’s June strike on Iranian nuclear sites — caught me a bit off guard. Did anyone care enough about the mission to wear it on their chest?

Now, as President Trump weighs his options in the region amid another military buildup, the politics of escalation are just as complicated. Midterm repercussions would, of course, hinge entirely on how any future attack plays out: a quick success or the start of another grinding conflict? That will matter enormously. Either way, if Trump strikes again, it will throw a wrench into his team’s plan to focus heavily on the economy from now until November, hoping to avoid a blue wave that would put impeachment on the table.

Just this week, Trump’s team huddled on Capitol Hill for a midterm strategy session with pollster Tony Fabrizio. As Mark Halperin reported, the “headline” was “The economy will be THE issue at the polls this November. Not immigration. Not foreign policy. Not Epstein or the border. Not investigations or indictments or Jan. 6 retrospectives. The economy.”

A major foreign conflict will necessarily suck huge amounts of oxygen from this message. Earlier this year, Team Trump already sensed the president needed to shift some of his focus back to domestic politics and spend less time on legacy-building foreign matters that might make the case for a Nobel Prize. He now risks making the same mistake.

To be fair, “Midnight Hammer” polled relatively well in the weeks after the US strikes. A Harvard-Harris survey in July found that 58% of Americans supported it, including 87% of Republicans and 52% of independents. Further, more than half of Americans, a full 54%, actually saw the operation as a “major military accomplishment”.

MAGA elites were more divided. Figures like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, and Marjorie Taylor Greene were sceptical that the move really represented “America First” foreign policy. Hawks saw the operation’s success as vindication that the anti-interventionists lacked credibility both in terms of politics and policy. The strike worked and the public liked it.

Most would agree, however, that if a protracted military conflict had ensued — hardly an outrageous possibility — this would have been different. Given that Republicans suffered some major defeats in off-year elections last November, a lengthy war in Iran could add more fuel to the Democratic fire.

Before she resigned from Congress, Greene spoke out. “We didn’t elect the president to go out there and travel the world and end the foreign wars,” Greene told NBC News. “We elected the president to stop sending tax dollars and weapons for the foreign wars — to completely not engage anymore. Watching the foreign leaders come to the White House through a revolving door is not helping Americans.” She added: “One of the big campaign issues is Americans were fed up with foreign wars.”

Interestingly, according to Halperin, Fabrizio’s polling shows Trump should start talking more like Greene. Which messages “resonate with key voters”? Fabrizio reportedly found that it was “banning stock trading for members of Congress; promoting greater transparency in health insurance pricing and claims reimbursement; lowering prescription drug costs; and protecting the Trump tax cuts.” For younger voters, housing costs will be important too.

None of this means voters will necessarily punish Trump and Republicans on the ballot in November for attacking Iran. Another quick and successful conflict could either help Republicans or have very little effect at all. Trump and the GOP could find a way to keep their messaging focused mostly on the economy, even as a conflict wages in the Middle East. But in light of the massive military buildup happening far away from America’s shores, that won’t be easy.
 

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