Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

OldTwilight said:
look like the war will happen ... I hope for Allah guidance to my country
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war is still unlikely, at least long war is not going to happen.

its all mind games, they are trying to dry IR up economically and cause internal implosion


USA will take risk of short term war, if it can be confirmed that, with the first strike, IRGC will surrender or surrender will come at less strikes!
 
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The new SL of IRI has been SL for quite some time. There are some people here (Iranians, rest dont count or understand) who still believe that currency fall or export revenues were not siphoned off for this. One by one IRGC's staunch Anti-Israel Generals are removed/retired/replaced over the period of time. This group wanted protests, population disgruntled with Islamic system, wars with Israel and US so they can take over and here we are.

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Emirzad said:
The new SL of IRI

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news is dubious given source but Larijani, Ghalibaf and Shamkhani are the real kingmakers at this point
 
Reichsmarschall said:
More and more chatter about fire at imam ali base
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I checked these coordinates against my map of Iranian SSM bases (including Imam Ali base in Khorramabad)

the coordinates he gives are at least 16km away from the closest part of the SSM base.

in any case, the base is huge and separated by mountain valleys, with everything valuable buried in the mountains. for context, there are tunnel entrances 5km apart. at worst, a small drone hit an administrative building or something.
 
Persian Gulf said:
news is dubious given source but Larijani, Ghalibaf and Shamkhani are the real kingmakers at this point
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Larijani then Ghalibaf+Shamkhani (IRGC) then Reformists like Araghchi.

We have been living in slow internal coup since Soleimani was burnt from inside like Raisi, Abdollahian, Bagheri, Salami etc.
 
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mulj said:
I can speak only for myself, I love both countries but I appreciate Iran more due stronger principles in politics knowing how big price had to be paid for it.
I think you are wrong about turks they just play different tune being not ready technologically and military for consequences if they take harsher posture but you as iranian can rightly so object it but that is the curse of modern muslim nations no at 1 least common goal defined and while is like that everyone will bicker and justify back and fort.
I agree with that about how you are portraited religiously by lot of sunni voices which is if you grab below surface is pure politics stuff without any logical metaphysical background, me personally do not believe in that kind of named distinction such as sunni or shia at all.
And frankly i would be frustrated about overall situation also as iranian but also proud about military achievements on its own.
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It's not about Turks not wanting to take a harder stance against Israel. It's that they are actively working for their interests. We were saying for years that Turkey and GCC are funding and training ISIS and Al-Qaida in Syria and Iraq to dismantle AoR. But we were accused of being the ones who work for Israel, wanting to genocide Sunnis etc. Now we can even read in the Epstein files that we were right. Turks because of their sect even got a pass for providing Israel with oil while they were geocoding Palestinians. The fact you still "love Turkey and refuse to condemn them proves my point" Muslim world will always favor sects over Islam.
 
mulj said:
Not really, when turks finish their kaan project with domestic engine it is game over for containing them to project their influence across region and blackmailing them via usa establishments, that is why jews are in full panic mode.
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Israel is small

It exists simply because of the U.S and west and the weapons and financial support they give

These same forces have kept Arab and Muslim countries weak and divided on purpose


All this war, all this conflict and death and destruction is simply to keep the little Jew state afloat





Times are changing and if Turkey and Pakistan and Arab states can develop increasingly powerful weapon systems and that dependence on the west is reduced or ended then it's over for Israel


Hamas are a irregular militia
Hezbollah are a irregular militia

Taking them on is no great feat for a state

Israel has been given a airforce that allows it to project power like a large state, but it's military itself reflects Israels small size and population


So if Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt and GCC led Arabs can form increasing alliances and work together on projects and weapons then Israel sees a bleak future

Israel sees Iran as the most immediate threat, if it fails to deal with Iran and Iran will be a loaded gun pointing at Israel for the foreseeable future with everyone else turning anti Israel too, the few GCC kinglets not included
 
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