When the war does finally come, and it will, I really hope Iran focuses on smashing the sh1t of of the illegal entity. That's where it hurts the US establishment the most. Any Gandu Arabs that help protect Israel should also get a hit too.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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ety
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Wait a minute. Is Iran a Chinese territory or protectorate ? Do China has the obligations to bail out Iran in its difficult economic situation ?
ToddE
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Control your mouth please.
ToddE
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Who told you or why are you assuming Iranian defense doctrine revolves around airforce ? Airforce factors ZERO which is why they are surviving on 400-800 million a year while IRGCASF is living on 30 Billion USD a year if we go by Supreme leaders ordered numbers for defence budget. The kind of first world superpower enemies we face, even if we get 250 SU-35S, they will matter less than IRGC having 1000 more new delivered hypersonic MRBMs or Long ranged LACMs, drones and few more underground bases. Instead such airforce will become a burden due to virtually no defence on earth against modern SOWs, ALBMs. In recently fought wars Fattah-1, Kheybar Shikan, P-800 Oniks, Khinzal, Golden Horizon etc pierced through layered ADs without getting shot. Some not even once.
kastor ville
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We need assets in the air to counter ALBMs carrying enemy fighters over Iraq...we need fighters to project power over UAE and Saudi Arabia if they decide to send their air force over Iran.... Just like everything we need to balanced approach. Absolutely agree, We need good air defenses missiles...but we also need a 5th gen fighter.
Even with SU 35s it seems you're making the same mistake.We made with the s300s.... Russia is selling its old outdated systems that might not be able to meet our needs in the next five years.
Air power does not become irrelevant just because Iran prioritizes missiles. Modern warfare is layered, not single domain. Even countries that invest heavily in ballistic and cruise missiles still require air superiority, ISR, electronic warfare, and defensive counter air capabilities. Missiles can deter and strike, but they cannot provide persistent airspace control, dynamic targeting, close air support, or real time battle management.
The claim that air forces “factor zero” is not supported by recent conflicts. In Ukraine for example, both sides rely heavily on air defense and airpower because neither side has achieved air superiority. In the Middle East, Israel’s dominance is built on integrated airpower, not missiles . Even Russia, despite hypersonic systems like Kinzhal, continues to invest heavily in tactical aviation because missiles cannot replace sustained air operations.
As for hypersonic and advanced stand off weapons “piercing layered ADs,” interception rates are mixed and heavily disputed in every conflict. No modern air defense system guarantees 100 percent interception, but that does not make air forces obsolete. The US, China, Russia, and even smaller powers continue to modernize fighter fleets alongside missile forces for a reason: missiles provide strategic deterrence, air forces provide operational flexibility and battlefield control.
If anything, relying only on missiles creates strategic rigidity. A balanced force structurre, including airpower, air defense, and missiles, is what serious military planers pursue. There is no modern example of a major power abandoning air capability in favor of missiles alone.
Strange he does that with people he despises almost every time.
We have some high class idiots indeed.........
Iran needs to get to 2029.
Until then it needs Russia and China to step up.
@Meengla
We were literally talking about this a few hours ago.
Bast***s are angry on Saudis, as of lately
So, the cat is out of the bag.
Pakistan Turkiye KSA Egypt Qatar - Radical Sunni Axis
Brace yourself guys
Pakistan and Turks need to sign defence pact SOON......
"Emerging Sunni axis"..........
Ok turkey and Saudi Arabia are next.
Can it be a missile test ?
C
Cash gk
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If Shabaz Sharif continues to act as a bootlicker, they might label him as an "extremist asslicker" in the future. They could then justify engaging in war against him, claiming they must punish him for his actions. This would likely result in the creation of a new term to describe him. Asslickers
It is not out of topic. Concept is they will attack those remaining countries creating any random reason.
kastor ville
Registered Member
Iran needs to get to 2029.
Until then it needs Russia and China to step up.
@Meengla
We were literally talking about this a few hours ago.
Bast***s are angry on Saudis, as of lately
So, the cat is out of the bag.
Pakistan Turkiye KSA Egypt Qatar - Radical Sunni Axis
Brace yourself guys
Pakistan and Turks need to sign defence pact SOON......
Shame on the low IQ Sunnis for working with zios over their Muslim brothers....in 100-150 yrs when the world moves past oil...they'll be back to living in tents again.
wangdefa
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I heard that he used to be a doctor, which reminds me of when Germany appointed a trampoline athlete as foreign minister, causing quite a few embarrassments internationally. Without experience as a grassroots civil servant and lacking a connection with the public, it’s easy to make blunders in inappropriate situations.
ToddE
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You repeating what I have been saying for 3 years now that we need Air-superiority fighters over Iraq-Syria to counter IAF's ALBM carriers but .... thats not gonna work against USAF/USN. Also remember these planes we are getting cost around 100 Million USD a airframe (all costs). If we lose some on ground due to Tomahawks or ALBMs or any modern SOW it will be a morale degradation. IRGCASF can have 25 Fattah-1 in that price. You know what they did to Israeli AD/ABM in last conflict. Not a single one of them or KS got shot.
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