Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mulj]

How can they make money in Iran when a software engineer (one of the best paying jobs in Iran) makes $600 per month? Please explain it to us.

They have a different version of patriotism. Their idea of patriotism is that first they should get Iran rid of this Islamic regime that puts Palestine and Lebanon above our national interests. That's the most patriotic thing you can do.

We'd rather see Iran looted by the US than Lebanon and Palestine.

PPP metric, i mean they can live above ordinary iranian per their skills and abilities? I know it is fraction what they can earn in west but they will not starve at home for sure.

I know that but as in life you gain on one side and you lose on other side, cost of that version of patriotism is slavery to the jews and west without any state agency for long time, it is harsh reality you would be striped of your national identity and established some odd version of non islamic ideology for state affairs how it could look i saw in protests of shah cultists in west, not very promising i would say.

If so then you will have soon opportunity for civil war to achieve that, what else could be said about it.

 

[muhammed45]

Iranian government should build simple basic prison cells inside or at the entry of missile and nuclear facilities and put the rioters and pahlavists there.

Give them their basis needs like food, medicines and a just prison term, but their life should be at risk when their heros (hats, pedophiles, baby-killers, zionists) bomb these facilities.

Then they will understand the pain of Iranian warriors and defense engineers.

Believe me these filthy cowards will wet their pants and cry for their moms.

Those students are bunch of naive and stupid, arrogant kids. They know nothing about US enmity with Islam and Iran.

Students in every country always behave like that, always critical with oppositional complex. Their age is around 18-23 and most of them are brainwashed by BBC, Israel-International, VOA etc. An other reason is that students are mostly economically weak, receive their monthly from their dads and moms and are already full of superiority complex. Oh, i have read a couple of books and hence i should sit in the place of president lol.

You are talking about bunch of kids, their punishment will be the punishment of an arrogant child not the way you suggested.

 

[Kyussis]

When is the right time for protesting?
Things would've been a lot easier if the system answered this question.

The system does not tolerate protests, particularly when it clashes with their core values like support for Palestine, systemic corruption, hijab, etc.

The protests started out in late December, 2025. They were peaceful and the state declared people had the right to peaceful protests. It was Only when the clown prince declared riots on Thursday January 7th that the blood bath started. Hundreds of Police and Basij were murdered in the most gruesome ways (not seen since Daesh was running loose in Syria and Iraq) because they were sent to the streets unarmed because the state did not want bloodshed. Most of those killed were either killed by the armed Mossad agents who were firing on both the police and protesters alike to cause the maximum number of deaths and rioters who were trying to over run police stations and Basij armories. Iran does tolerate protests as can be seen at Sharif university in the videos that you have posted yourself. What Iran does not tolerate are violent riots in conjunction with Mossad Terrorist who attack and kill Security Personnel and civilians alike while doing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property damage by setting light to cars, busses, ambulances, fire trucks, police cars, shops, schools, libraries, police stations, fire stations, hospitals...

 

[ShapurII]

PPP metric, i mean they can live above ordinary iranian per their skills and abilities? I know it is fraction what they can earn in west but they will not starve at home for sure.

I know that but as in life you gain on one side and you lose on other side, cost of that version of patriotism is slavery to the jews and west without any state agency for long time, it is harsh reality you would be striped of your national identity and established some odd version of non islamic ideology for state affairs how it could look i saw in protests of shah cultists in west, not very promising i would say.

If so then you will have soon opportunity for civil war to achieve that, what else could be said about it.

One kilogram of lamb meat in Iran is $9.25
One kilogram of chicken meat is $3
One kilogram of Persian rice is $2.8
One liter of sunflower cooking oil is $1.52 (cheapest cooking oil)

Compare these prices to your own country and you will see that food prices in Iran are pretty high for Iranian salaries. Rent in Tehran is also insanely high.

Our national identity has nothing to do with Islam and Palestine. We have our own traditions and national identity. Nowruz, Shab-e Chelleh, Chaharshanbeh Souri, etc. A secular Iran does not mean an Iran without its national identity. Islam is only a small part of our identity.

I'd rather have a civil war than let the Ayatollahs ruin Iran slowly.

 

[mulj]

One kilogram of lamb meat in Iran is $9.25
One kilogram of chicken meat is $3
One kilogram of Persian rice is $2.8
One liter of sunflower cooking oil is $1.52 (cheapest cooking oil)

Compare these prices to your own country and you will see that food prices in Iran are pretty high for Iranian salaries. Rent in Tehran is also insanely high.

Our national identity has nothing to do with Islam and Palestine. We have our own traditions and national identity. Nowruz, Shab-e Chelleh, Chaharshanbeh Souri, etc. A secular Iran does not mean an Iran without its national identity. Islam is only a small part of our identity.

I'd rather have a civil war than let the Ayatollahs ruin Iran slowly.

I agree, those are rather high in comparation with salaries, sanctions along present corruption do that kind of thing, so mix of eternal and external factors.

I will not discuss about iranian identity with you except that i received through my limited learning interactions quite opposite opinions, otherwise that is something to be discussed among iranians them self.

Hope that you are fringe minority with that kind of opinion.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

One kilogram of lamb meat in Iran is $9.25
One kilogram of chicken meat is $3
One kilogram of Persian rice is $2.8
One liter of sunflower cooking oil is $1.52 (cheapest cooking oil)

Compare these prices to your own country and you will see that food prices in Iran are pretty high for Iranian salaries. Rent in Tehran is also insanely high.

Our national identity has nothing to do with Islam and Palestine. We have our own traditions and national identity. Nowruz, Shab-e Chelleh, Chaharshanbeh Souri, etc. A secular Iran does not mean an Iran without its national identity. Islam is only a small part of our identity.

I'd rather have a civil war than let the Ayatollahs ruin Iran slowly.

If you have rather civil war why dont you go and participate in the civil war (defending the good side)?
Have you seen what civil war did with yugoslavia, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq? Do you know what civil war means, what it does to a population and the country?

Why Pahlavi doesnt fund the poor people? why he asks for war against Iran and maximum sanctions? Why he doenst start campaign against silent killings (tje sanctions)? D

 

[tower9]

Some numbers to remember about Iran:

Only 37 % of Iranian identified themselves as Muslim (shia and sunni)..2020 poll

25 million Iranians came out all across Iran on the nites of Jan 7 and 8 and denounced Islamic republic and demanded return of Pahavi (this closest estimate done)..IR panicked and ordered mass execution.

Between 30 to 60 thousands were shot and killed while unarmed.

Iran's standard of living has dropped 6 folds in the last 47 years under mullahs

It is estimated the cost of nuclear program has been more than $ 500 billion dollars or Iran's 10 year oil production..every kilo of enrich uranium that IR owns has cost Iran one billion dollars !!

IRGC HAS 160000 ACTIVE MEMBERS, Iranian regular army has 300,000 active member..the loyalty of this national army to the Islamic regime is questionable at best.

As much as I am against Israel and the Zionist program, let us call a spade a spade. The Islamic Republic is a massive failure in every way. Ideologically, strategically, administratively, it is a massive failure.

 

[ShapurII]

I agree, those are rather high in comparation with salaries, sanctions along present corruption do that kind of thing, so mix of eternal and external factors.

I will not discuss about iranian identity with you except that i received through my limited learning interactions quite opposite opinions, otherwise that is something to be discussed among iranians them self.

Hope that you are fringe minority with that kind of opinion.

The problem is that the regime tried to detach our currency from the global market and relied on the concept of self-sufficiency. So, when we started to face water shortage and our agriculture and farming sectors were hit, we were forced to import food from other countries. Besides that, when our oil exports were reduced, we started to export more non-oil products like agricultural products and food. All of these factors together raised food prices in Iran.

Go ahead and talk to other Iranians on the internet. PDF is by far the most pro-IR circle you can find on the internet, by a long shot. Find Iranians on other websites and talk to them.

Even better, if you can visit Istanbul, talk to Iranians there. They will tell you what we think about our identity.

 

[ShapurII]

If you have rather civil war why dont you go and participate in the civil war (defending the good side)?
Have you seen what civil war did with yugoslavia, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq? Do you know what civil war means, what it does to a population and the country?

Why Pahlavi doesnt fund the poor people? why he asks for war against Iran and maximum sanctions? Why he doenst start campaign against silent killings (tje sanctions)? D

To answer your question, why Pahlavi should fund the poor people in the first place? What is his position in this country to do that?

You cannot claim to be the rulers of the country but then ask others to provide for you. What the f*ck are you good for then?

A better question is why are we sanctioned over our nuclear program when it is already destroyed, and we never produced nuclear weapons? Who has said that Iran is responsible for the fate of Palestine?

I know what civil war is and I know what the Ayatollahs are and I would still choose civil war over more years of the Ayatollahs.

 

[ShapurII]

As much as I am against Israel and the Zionist program, let us call a spade a spade. The Islamic Republic is a massive failure in every way. Ideologically, strategically, administratively, it is a massive failure.

The Islamic Republic of Iran is a textbook example of a failed state. Just like Saddam's Iraq.

 

[Kyussis]

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This guy was a surgeon. I feel sorry for anyone who was operated upon by this goof!

 

[Shags101]

One kilogram of lamb meat in Iran is $9.25
One kilogram of chicken meat is $3
One kilogram of Persian rice is $2.8
One liter of sunflower cooking oil is $1.52 (cheapest cooking oil)

Compare these prices to your own country and you will see that food prices in Iran are pretty high for Iranian salaries. Rent in Tehran is also insanely high.

Our national identity has nothing to do with Islam and Palestine. We have our own traditions and national identity. Nowruz, Shab-e Chelleh, Chaharshanbeh Souri, etc. A secular Iran does not mean an Iran without its national identity. Islam is only a small part of our identity.

I'd rather have a civil war than let the Ayatollahs ruin Iran slowly.

So one of the worse case scenarios you would prefer Iran devolve into a Syria Sudan or Afghanistan situation where millions would die perhaps decades of fighting and infighting.

I’m not Iranian but even I know if and I hope it never goes down to this level but if Iran did collapse and civil war did erupt it wouldn’t be just a civil war it would be multiple conflict within Iran many provinces with many countries and groups trying to carve out a section for each part of Iran millions dead within a few years and Iran becoming the new Afghanistan as the result of it……seriously you would rather have high food prices because you don’t like the guys running the show not saying a lot of these guys are saints but compared to Bibi and trump they’re angels

 

[Tehrani021]

Your assumption is that Americans would care about what was used to reduce the American body bags.
I am with Max Blumenthal and I posted his video above: To wrap up the attack on Iran, tactical nukes might be used and a duplicate of the escalation threat like used against Japan in the 1940s.

I don't think the American populace at large would approve a nuke attack in return for less body bags. I would think they would want less wars and more focus on their own perils internally. I understand what you're saying, no need to repeat it...all I'm saying is that it would be a massive own goal for US if they did something as stupid as that.

 

[Immortals]

 

[BHAN85]

USS Ford (CVN-78) arrived in NSA Souda Bay, Greece. – Reuters
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US jets, Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier arrive in Israel | The Jerusalem Post

The USS Gerald R. Ford, the world’s largest aircraft carrier, is set to dock in Haifa as part of US reinforcements in the Middle East, amid rising tensions with Iran.

www.jpost.com

It will be in Haifa port soon.

It's a good window of opportunity for Israel, to launch a first strike against Iran when she will be in Israel port.