Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PK781]

My personal analysis tends to agree with some of my journalist friends that all this posturing by the americans is just to pressurize Iran into a deal favorable to the americans and the zions. (Not sure on the terms being discussed obviously).


If there is a regional war and things escalate even if nobody comes to support iran, it will definitely damage greatly ALL american interests in the region, and most importantly, the oil trade route of the world. There is no doubt that if shit escalates, the entire world will feel the aftermath and shit will hit the fan in western world as well (ordinary folks like us living in west will suffer too). Hyperinflation will go up many times, putting entire order at risk.

We all know Iran is a brave nation and will retaliate when attack and this will have serious consequences (its upto iran to do whatever and however and whether or not they decide what to do and who to go after). Obviously we pray and hope to avoid WAR at all costs possible as war and destruction is not good for world peace. And all this can easily convert into a world war scenario.

I really hope the americans are smarter than this and they do not end up starting a world war(or regional) they cannot afford or control afterwards. America itself in decline and in huge debt and it cannot afford wars at the moment. Do u think those sailors on the ships are ready for war? No way. They will kill each other if the stay prolongs, these westerners do not have the patience these days to survive wars or long conflicts. Specially the young ones. U can only contain them on the ships for so long. They will soon need to get back to shores and back home on their own soil. This is why pretty much all the arabs are against the attack on iran as it will have consequences for them and their lavish lifes and protections may cease to exist if they come under fire from the iranian retaliation.

I am alot more concerned about the israeli/zions actually starting the war by attacking(false flag or sabotage) the american ships and personnel themselves!
Theyve done it before, i wont put it past mossad to plan and try to start a war.
lets hope that doesnt happen. The world even in its current order, is still livable and most people even in western world dont want world wars. Given the amount of nukes already on the planet, things can go nuke pretty quickly if shit escalates and then we're all done.
Even a nuclear strike in just one place will cause radiation and other affects for everyone in the world.....

I hope peace stays. But iran and pakistan must remain prepared and ready.
if iran is attacked, i am sure pakistan will be too(whether by india or west/zions).

 

[Kyussis]

Honestly I have stopped caring. The GCC deserves whatever Israel/US does to it in the subsequent decades.

I was only asking because some Iranians think that if only they had a government that emulated the GCC countries subservient policy towards the Genocidal Zionists, then all of Iran's problems would be solved.

 

[Navid09]

My guess is we will have JCPOA 2.0.

It may be straight to a deal without any war or just a limited strike, retaliation from iran. Then a cease fire and finally slowly towards a deal.

Basically I don't think we will have a massive war, so far trump hasn't shown this kind of behaviour, in 2017-2018 he done similar build up relative for north Korea and threat levels were high but nothing happened. He is after optics, short victories, and backdoor deals.

Also Iran has too much deterrence, Israel hasn't stocked up on interceptors, Gerald ford carrier is in need of maintenance and low crew morale. Oil prices could shoot up and trigger financial crisis and internal protests.

On the other hand for trump to move all this force and then back off without signing a deal, even if he does a limited strike doesn't make sense, in other words this build up must be for negotiating leverage.

So after deal is signed, Iran starts relying on imports again, internal industry suffers a bit, then a few years later, next president will probably withdraw again from the deal, be it trumps third term, Vance or anyone else.

Essentially goal being to keep Iran always in limbo, and so that it can't attain true self sufficiency.

Somewhere in between they will probably start a civil war in Iraq, sending in Sunni extremists, and mercanaries from syria to weaken the PMF and further isolate Iran.

And over time they will degrade Hezbollah through attrition.

If they cant change or balkanise the country, then just always keep it weak through soft power.

 

[Watandar]

Let's stay away from sectarian or ethnic back and forth.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

• Zionist are controlling Government higher echelons and also Military brass
• The actual Americans are being shot locally by ICE, there is some situation brewing in USA internally

Jared Kushner was presented as a "None Political figure" initially when he came to prominence , in initial years . It was mentioned he was some man involved in News related business or something very civilian. When Trump was first campaigning for his first term. I have seen his involvement continuously grow as if he was a main character of storyline

Now it seems he is a real brain behind the operations behind the scene

Trump himself has lied during his campaigns , claiming he wants to end wars but here he is about to start WW3 with Russia & China, and sanctions United Nation's officials

Seems like he was never about "America first" he was always Zionist first

Now also his credibility looks dented after he organized "Board of Peace"
Israel's Military Dictator states he wants to kick start a Greater Israel project

He was coached by Henry Kissinger in Trump's first term.

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[Navid09]

these are supposed to be short range missiles

now consider GPS jamming and interceptions ... best if they just target oil fields

anyway this is IRGC-GF not IRGC-ASF

Maybe older, cheaper missiles or guided rockets?

 

[Watandar]

I was only asking because some Iranians think that if only they had a government that emulated the GCC countries subservient policy towards the Genocidal Zionists, then all of Iran's problems would be solved.

Well...Iran has paid a huge price for its defiance of the West/Zios since 1979 and the people are tired. It's understandable they indulge in fantasies and alternate history.

You also have to give the GCC devils their due. In the past 125 years the Arabs of what is the GCC broadly aligned with the British against the Ottoman Turks, then with the Americans against the Communists, and then after 1979 with the Americans / Israelis against Iran.

This strategy alongwith huge oil revenues paid off big time for them. Sure many people had to be ruined, like the Palestinians who were utterly destroyed but ....you cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs right ? That was the price demanded by the West and Zionists.

What I find interesting is a potentially post Iran Mideast. What will these Arabs do when there is no longer the Iran bogeyman ?? For the first time in 125 years they will lose their relevance to the West and be at the utter mercy of the Zionists. I hope they get everything they deserve.

 

[Navid09]

Fair points. I agree with most of them.

However, as somebody with friends from both Kermanshah and other Kurdish parts of Iran, I think Kermanshah is very different from the rest, probably because the people of Kermanshah are Shiite. I have friends from cities like Mahabad and Saqqez and they're very different.

I never said the power lied in the hands of Khamenei, but he clearly has played a huge role in the current ideology of the regime. And I never said Bin Salman did a coup. I was referring to his reforms in Saudi Arabia. We need that type of reforms in Iran.

We need somebody that closes the gap between the majority of Iranians under 50 and the current establishment. We need somebody that stops this anti-imperialist insanity and normalizes our ties with the United States, even at the cost of normalizing our relations with Israel behind the scene. Iran needs to join the world markets again.

I don't care if this person is Rohani, Zarif, Reza Pahlavi or Mickey Mouse as long as the situation returns to somewhat normal instead of the current situation that can lead to nowhere but absolute disaster for Iran and its future generations.

What threat was maduro, Chavez, Cuba etc to America and Israel?

Gaddafi tried normalising relationships with both USA and Israel and see where that got him once he gave up WMD's.

 

[Arash]

Turkey is considering to attack Iran as NATO foot solders ... we should put their infrastructure in the list ...

The true color of our brotherly neighbour......... in the évent of à future war between Israel and Turkey, Iran should also apply the same policy.

 

[Immortals]

His father stole billions from Iran and this man cannot take a few thousands and remove that parrot size nose of his.

 

[Khansaheeb]

The real problem arises when the Pakistani establishment targets Afghanistan and destabilizes it, making it unsafe for Pakistan itself. If This is followed by the American attack on Iran. This will likely lead the Afghan to side with Iran, placing Pakistan in a difficult position. Does this mean Pakistani Establishment is choosing the side of the Americans? And making sure more manpower join from Afghanistan with Iran in possible war against America
Last night attacks on Afghanistan is another developing story you cannot separate with the recent development happening in region.
This is very valid question. I hope someone answer it.
Because no one know America and NATO better than Taliban. As they have fight experience with them and negotiation experience with them as well

Why would the establishment/Pakistan take the side of the Americans? No matter how much bowing the corrupts do they will be dealt with like all the friends of the US. Friend today , bombed tomorrow type of friendship has no meaning. US is under Israeli control and Pakistan is next on the list. They can dance as much as they want to the tune and beg much money but all this is a distraction.

 

[Khansaheeb]

His father stole billions from Iran and this man cannot take a few thousands and remove that parrot size nose of his.

That's what confuses the Zions and that's why they support him.

 

[Cash gk]

Why would the establishment/Pakistan take the side of the Americans? No matter how much bowing the corrupts do they will be dealt with like all the friends of the US. Friend today , bombed tomorrow type of friendship has no meaning. US is under Israeli control and Pakistan is next on the list. They can dance as much as they want to the tune and beg much money but all this is a distraction.

Next number is for Pakistan there is no question about that

 

[Khansaheeb]

Next number is for Pakistan there is no question about that

That's why they are arming India to the teeth, not for China but Pakistan. Iran will militarily and economically collapse. The mighty Iranians can't even protect their own Generals and Scientists and have been mocked silly by Israel and their controlled proxies.

 

[OldTwilight]

They need to target bigger targets, these results not that good tbh.

those are first wave attack , just too wear down the enemy .... and maneuver are cor this , to see the result in near real combat environment