Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

The Gerald Ford carrier has arrived off the coast of Israel. Cities in Israel are opening bomb shelters and air defense staff have been called up. Israeli news channels are also staffing up for 24/7 broadcasting. Looks like there will be some tit for tat attacks this weekend. To what level it will go is the question.
I am hoping its a theatrical back and forth.

Good info.
I am also hoping for a repeat theatrical like in June 2025. But IF there is no major war this time then I don't see how Netanyahu will be able to convince President Trump again to mobilize like now in Trump's remaining term.
So this is it as far as a major war, which is likely to be the most consequential war in the Middle East since decades.

 

[Immortals]

Argachi is doing his job and what Iran needs now, which is to show that Iran is fully engaged in diplomatic negotiations with the USA. It is for the USA to break those off, and attack Iran. Iran is not going to give the USA a freebie by not engaging with the process(even if the process may be a fake process by the USA).

And yet he was completely shocked when US attacked. And he was the one saying don’t believe what Trump and Witkoff were saying in the media.

The man is a tool and a hazard to Iran. He’s from the Zarif and Rouhani camp.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

slim chances of a prolonged war, given the US debt

and if war happens, it will not go beyond 15 to 20 days

 

[Tehrani021]

Good info.
I am also hoping for a repeat theatrical like in June 2025. But IF there is no major war this time then I don't see how Netanyahu will be able to convince President Trump again to mobilize like now in Trump's remaining term.
So this is it as far as a major war, which is likely to be the most consequential war in the Middle East since decades.

1000 Iranians died in June 2025, so please don't call such events as "theatrical", and certainly don't "hope" for such a thing.

 

[tsunset]

Unbelievable savages

 

[Meengla]

1000 Iranians died in June 2025, so please don't call such events as "theatrical", and certainly don't "hope" for such a thing.

The Iranian attack on Qatar as a retaliation was certainly part of an arranged event to defuse the situation then; the casualties you are referring to were indeed sad but happened before that.
Details matter.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Good info.
I am also hoping for a repeat theatrical like in June 2025. But IF there is no major war this time then I don't see how Netanyahu will be able to convince President Trump again to mobilize like now in Trump's remaining term.
So this is it as far as a major war, which is likely to be the most consequential war in the Middle East since decades.

In the first few minutes of a war, how does Iran work out if the attack is a minor attack, or a full out balkanisation of Iran operation? That is what the commanders will have to deal with in their decision making. They may well decide that it is full on, and therefore they should do the same regardless of the intent of the USA, because Iran will be faced with a use it or lose option.

This is why when the shooting starts, all plans get thrown out of the window as the dynamics of the operation are not possible to determine at all.

 

[Meengla]

In the first few minutes of a war, how does Iran work out if the attack is a minor attack, or a full out balkanisation of Iran operation? That is what the commanders will have to deal with in their decision making. They may well decide that it is full on, and therefore they should do the same regardless of the intent of the USA, because Iran will be faced with a use it or lose option.
This is why when the shooting starts, all plans get thrown out of the window as the dynamics of the operation are not possible to determine at all.

Right. And probably better for some Iranians to answer that.
I will say this much: American credibility in international matters under President Trump is ZERO! ZERO! Iranians should not trust a word he says and be really vigilant.

 

[tsunset]

In the first few minutes of a war, how does Iran work out if the attack is a minor attack, or a full out balkanisation of Iran operation? That is what the commanders will have to deal with in their decision making. They may well decide that it is full on, and therefore they should do the same regardless of the intent of the USA, because Iran will be faced with a use it or lose option.

This is why when the shooting starts, all plans get thrown out of the window as the dynamics of the operation are not possible to determine at all.

There is no way they balkanize without ground troops or prolonged 5+ year full war with total mobilization

 

[Watandar]

There is no way they balkanize without ground troops or prolonged 5+ year full war with total mobilization

There are some hints about Kurdish militias in iraq and groups inside Iran ready to attack the govt should big enough protests break out.

 

[Ali_Baba]

There is no way they balkanize without ground troops or prolonged 5+ year full war with total mobilization

They were successful in doing it in Libya without ground troops. Iran has a fifth column internally as well to deal with.

 

[tsunset]

 

[tsunset]

They were successful in doing it in Libya without ground troops. Iran has a fifth column internally as well to deal with.

Iran is not Lybia

 

[StrategicBear]

This war will mark the beginning of the end for Zionism and Western Civilization. Both were built on Settler Colonialism and will end with both USA and Israel disbanded and dismantled, no longer existing as functional countries as a result of this war, with the US Dollar and economy collapsing and their country spiraling into chaos and civil war, and Trump losing his seat.

Unlike the Racist Japanese Youtuber Ken Kenobi wanting to support white people(especially White Americans) and dismissing the Natives in his recent video on Youtube(which triggered me more than his comments about Europe, as I consider Native American's seniority and rights to the land as Indigenous People to be unquestionable except for him alone that prefers to side with colonizers than indigenous people), as I am from the opposing side who wants to see white people from America lose and be defeated, as payback and Karmic Retribution for all the bad things they did to Natives and Black people all these years. Just like they slaughtered Native Americans in war, Iran should now slaughter White American soldiers in war (Black American and Native American soldiers serving in the US military if they die is their own responsibility since they chose to join the military in the first place)

The JAPS have picked their side : White People( of a Racist Conservative type), and I have picked my side : The Anti-Colonial Anti-Western Global South Bloc

"And so colonizers will finally leave the lands they once robbed from the Natives....."