Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds



Um...this means the UK's Diego Garcia has been approved as a launch base..things are going to get really really bad soon as most US heavy weaponry is there (ie heavy bombers B1/B2/B52).
 
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At another Iranian base that had 3rd Khordad. Ineffective against western onslaught

 
To me it doesnt matter who it is Israel or Iran or any other country. If they are targeting civilians specifically they are the same breed. Collateral is another story. The morality of the action is not defined by the entity doing it. The morality of the entity is defined by the action it chooses. For now I will choose to believe that civilian areas weren't deliberately targeted. We have history of respect for civilians in the past and simple military doctrine where constrained resources cannot be committed to civilian targets.

But if overwhelming evidence comes that civilians were targeted, no amount of rationalization will count.

Morality has long left the field since last 70 years of Iarael's atrocities. You can debate about Morality or two wrongs don't make a right or such philosophical delicacies to Palestinian Muslims and Christians, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, etc .. but you do know how much they'd care.
 
Trump now confirming there may be US casualties
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To be, or not to be—that is the question for Trump.

Trump wants a short-term strike and an AW-type operation, but Iran's response is something else entirely. If, without a ground invasion, US armed forces' coffins arrive in the USA, then the whole country including MAGA would turn against him.

And that's a big 'if.' If he sends in ground troops, then it would become a mission that lasts a decade.

Trump is totally messed up this time
 
If Trump thought this was going to lead to a regime change, or increase pressure, hrs a fucking idiot.

Sure, the Iranian government is filled with morons, but they've been planning for this for decades.

Iranian government will survive, and its hard-core supporters will come out in the streets in support.

There will be no uprising. There will be no march to the Presidential Palace. There will be no toppling of the supreme leader moment.

Nothing less than a ground invasion is going to work, because air campaigns alone rarely work, and Trump is too much of a coward to order boots on the ground in any meaningful scale.
 

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