Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

Al Arabiya reporting direct impact and smoke in Haifa

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The revolution guard is a militia arny. They are only good to crack down domestic protesters, keeping the country under the fist. The guard is indeed the backbone of religious movement but military wise, what equipment what training they have?
What can they do against Israel and US army, the 2 most powerful armies on the planet?

They look like China's rocket force, and this is their underground great wall.

 

[mangekyo]

This is Iran without Khamenei.

I've said this many times before, but Khamenei, rest in peace, was an extremely stubborn and stupid strategist. He should be credited with leading Iran down the road of ruin and restraining Iran from actually defending itself.

Now that he is gone, it is no holds barred. Iran is lashing out every way possible because it's very survival is on the line.

I admire how Khamenei kept his spirit strong and never abandoned his trust in his religion and God. But I disagree with his politics. I don’t like saying this, but I don’t believe God or Islam will protect Muslims against the genocidal Zionists. I believe his policy of strategic patience, trust in God etc would eventually let the Zionists destroy us.

What IRGC is doing now is what they should have done after they hit soleimani, if not a decade ago or even longer when they first started going after our scientists.

 

[Falcon26]

With the latest disappointing "wave" of missiles, I'm beginning to sense Iran will surrender very soon and Larijani will bow down to Trump. Like other users have said, Iran can't sustain this and will do as theyre told so that the country stays whole and Pahlavi doesn't come into power.

Trump will take any concession from Iran. The war must end before Monday. The US and global market can not handle it.

 

[Falcon29]

Qatar now after the Iranian attack

 

[Falcon29]

A statement by Ali Larijani, Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, is expected soon.

 

[Tehrani021]

Trump will take any concession from Iran. The war must end before Monday. The US and global market can not handle it.

Markets will thrive with the news of Iranian leadership destroyed. When Iran gets hit markets do the opposite. Trump will negotiate from a position of power and expect all of its demands met. Makes me sick to the stomach saying this, but it's looking like a reality.

 

[StrategicBear]

So nations can now assassinate world leaders and get away with it scot-free? Is this the message we want to send the world?

 

[FHN]

 

[tower9]

I admire how Khamenei kept his spirit strong and never abandoned his trust in his religion and God. But I disagree with his politics. I don’t like saying this, but I don’t believe God or Islam will protect Muslims against the genocidal Zionists. I believe his policy of strategic patience, trust in God etc would eventually let the Zionists destroy us.

What IRGC is doing now is what they should have done after they hit soleimani, if not a decade ago or even longer when they first started going after our scientists.

Question. What country, surrounded by enemies, targeted by the most powerful forces in the world, spends three decades, tens of billions of dollars on nuclear research and doesn’t produce a nuclear weapon?

Answer: Iran

 

[Hayabusa]

In what world can Iran take on a $1T/yr military + Israel and come out standing when Iran spends less than $30B/yr on defense.

Be realistic.

They dont have to go bullet for bullet. They just need to make the cost of this war significantly painful for them. That is by striking Israel economic targets or incur huge military loss around the area. Iran has higher threshold for damages that's for sure.

This is being realistic by the way. Your perspective is too narrow.

 

[mangekyo]

This is revenge for losing their leader.

You understand if it was Russia or China the response would be nuclear war?

That’s why nukes exist; if you feel the enemy is taking out your leadership to cause your country to collapse then you retain the option to take your enemy with you via your nuclear arsenal. Mutual assured destruction

Except in case of Iran it doesn’t have nukes.

Why do you think Kim Jung Un hasn’t been bombed in his compound? You don’t think that 24 F-22’s could fly into North Korea and take him out in the middle of the night or even in day light?

Soleimani was also their leader and they did nothing. Raisi was their leader, their did nothing. They never avenged anyone. What reason could there be other than Khamenei ordering them to keep calm and trust in God? This has nothing to do with revenge.

 

[natrix]

Sirens have been ongoing in various parts of Israel for over an hour, however no verified reports of interceptors being launched or any impacts

 

[mangekyo]

Question. What country, surrounded by enemies, targeted by the most powerful forces in the world, spends three decades, tens of billions of dollars on nuclear research and doesn’t produce a nuclear weapon?

Answer: Iran

Because of Khameneis fatwa

 

[Immortals]

With the latest disappointing "wave" of missiles, I'm beginning to sense Iran will surrender very soon and Larijani will bow down to Trump. Like other users have said, Iran can't sustain this and will do as theyre told so that the country stays whole and Pahlavi doesn't come into power.

Correct. Sadly. I mentally prepared myself a year ago for such an outcome and only became more confident the end was near after the 12 day war.

This is more about honor and revenge, but also getting a better “surrender” deal.

In the end, Iran’s system will elect to “reform” itself. Some form of capitulation will happen. Nuclear program for sure will be scrapped and long range missile program likely as well. Anything that could harm Israel.

Maybe in 20 or 30 years Iran can rebuild itself into something stronger with a stronger economy. Who knows what the future lies. You never know what could happen that makes conditions favorable once again for Iran.