Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

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Bro Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Anyone can edit it

 

[Immortals]

The high cost of the aggressors regional allies and an intact capacity to still fire barrages of missiles apart from ability to direct traffic in the Straits. Not to mention still a dedicated 2nd to 3rd tier leadership.

No country has won a war randomly bombing other countries. Iran is just throwing projectiles everywhere and hoping some hit something.

That’s not a long term war strategy. Iran has lost its airspace. Israel and U.S. will continue hitting the targets they want while Iran will pray they hit something of value. It’s a lopsided affair.

There's a small illusion of win-win still on the cards. That window will close for IRI sooner rather than later.

There is no win-win. If Iran wanted war thru peace, it should have initiated it on its own terms like Russia did in 2022 rather than waiting for the war to come to Iran without having a choice.

But iran was so considered about public opinion and optics that it didn’t even launch a war when Israel destroyed its embassy in Syria. That’s a sign the system has no honor. Destroying an embassy is an act of war.

But iran wouldn’t defend its honor when it’s generals died in Syria, when it’s nuclear program was attacked repeatedly the past 20 years, when it’s embassy was attacked, when it’s officials assassinated, etc.

The system has failed. A new system needs to be built focused on economic prosperity and technological progress since clearly War fighting is not this systems strong suit, engineering is.

 

[Persian Gulf]

small city in Iran

Iranians are increasingly united and keen for revenge

 

[koolio]

Fog of war but I hope it's true

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Incredible job done so far by Iran despite its leadership / top commanders being killed early in battle. They responded promptly and much more then what people were expecting.

Only thing which Iran didn't do right was, to gave time and space to US forces for build up around it. Iran allowed US to prepare and deploy forces with impunity. Iran should have known that Americans are kind of breed which can never be trusted. They are most disgusting nation. I had absolute clarity that "talks" are only excuse by US to gain time and US will attack. It was so obvious there was no going back for US after that build up. I stated it number of times but many people in this thread were not so sure and the Iranian leadership.

I forecast Iran will win this war. Even if Iran keep firing 2 or 3 missiles to Israel, it would keep that country effectively close. No work, people rushing to bomb shelters. The GCC are started to feel the heat and they'd be telling Trump to end it sooner. In the end, Trump / Israel will want a ceasefire without regime change. It will be a victory for Iran fighting all alone against super power + its regional dog Israel.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yemenis need to join Iraq and get involved

 

[Feroze]

Bro Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Anyone can edit it

Alright, but see this post:

 

[mangekyo]

I think you are failing to understand something: Iran has lost.

Iran isn’t HZ or Taliban or Hamas, it’s a developed country with half trillion GDP. This isn’t surrender and fight another day. It’s pure surrender.

It was over in June. But copium on this board was that “Israel came begging for a ceasefire”. The reality is US/Israel completed their knock out blow and were giving Iran a chance to negotiate on the nuclear program.

Iran didn’t budge and they removed the Supreme Leader and several more officials yesterday.

Iran’s system has failed and its ideology has failed. It’s time for a new phase for the country.

But by all means go ahead and fight for honor and pride at this point, all that will mean is more of Iran sadly gets destroyed until Iran “drinks from the poisoned chalice”.

I’m not going to repeat myself. You tell me how Iran has lost. Educate me.

 

[RescueRanger]

Alright, but see this post:
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Telegraph is pro Israel. I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy or anything, but give it some time and let's see what the truth is.

 

[hussain0216]

This talk of ceasefire if asked by Iran does not bode well. Trumpy will make surrender conditions so hard that if not accepted they will keep doing punitive strikes.

Iran is heavily bleeding, but they have a strong choice to make.

Trust trumpy who is a serial liar and expect constant attacks until the government falls, or agree to hand over to Palvi, or make this war bloody and extremely painful for trumpy.

Lots of dead US soldiers will lead to trumpy pushing for a ceasefire, then Iran may just have a stronger position to negotiate ironically otherwise we have seen this script a few times already.

The talks request came from the U.S via the Italians

 

[Persian Gulf]

Haifa Oil Refinery has been hit (just like last summer) in the past 24 hours. Confirmed by CENTCOM.

CENTCOM accidentally reporting that Iran hit the Haifa oil refinery

 

[030292]

I know it's off topic but Pakistan should immediately order 100 J-10C from china. Because if the example of Venezuela and Iran told us one thing it is that China won't come for our help during any future war with Israel/USA. So better whatever you can get from them before the war, the better.

People think that no for china Pakistan is different. Is it ? Iran could give China fuel for 50+ years, yet China didn't bothered to protect it from enemies. What Pakistan offers to china ? Nothing.

Increase range of our missiles to atleast 4000 km. Make them cjeaper to produce. Have production lines in all provinces for drones and missiles. Increase production of GBUs, and anti-ship missiles. Increase ranges and quantities of our SAMs.

we need to strengthen our air defence system, we are severely lacking in this department, throw all the funds into air defence and the leftover budget into j-35, otherwise we will not stand a chance if they can lob missiles at will and anything below 5th fighters are a shooting practice for platforms like F-35 and F-22

 

[925boy]

Russians seem geopolitically stagnant. While America bled them badly in Afghanistan in the 80s, the Russians had the Americans in Afghanistan for 20 years--in Russia's backyard--and did nothing to avenge.

False. Russia used Iran's connections with the taliban to setup a $1m bounty per US or nato soldier killed by taliban snipers reward program, and that program caused many deaths.,so much ao that US was publicly angry about it but couldn't so much.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Alright, but see this post:
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Claims are all from Western and Israeli sources. Let's wait for Irani State media confirmation.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Drone strike hits Israeli embassy in UAE towers, Israelis injured