Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[El Sidd]

No country has won a war randomly bombing other countries. Iran is just throwing projectiles everywhere and hoping some hit something.

That’s not a long term war strategy. Iran has lost its airspace. Israel and U.S. will continue hitting the targets they want while Iran will pray they hit something of value. It’s a lopsided affair.

It seems like a strategy of deterrence and it could possibly work still in that regard. There are no qualms that it was always a lopsided affair.

There is no win-win. If Iran wanted war thru peace, it should have initiated it on its own terms like Russia did in 2022 rather than waiting for the war to come to Iran without having a choice.

But iran was so considered about public opinion and optics that it didn’t even launch a war when Israel destroyed its embassy in Syria. That’s a sign the system has no honor. Destroying an embassy is an act of war.

But iran wouldn’t defend its honor when it’s generals died in Syria, when it’s nuclear program was attacked repeatedly the past 20 years, when it’s embassy was attacked, when it’s officials assassinated, etc.

The system has failed. A new system needs to be built focused on economic prosperity and technological progress since clearly War fighting is not this systems strong suit, engineering is.

If it continues like this, the new system would not be an Iranian system in the making.

 

[tsunset]

Just destroy everything in PGCC until they cry and beg Iran to stop it, including civilian targets

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[925boy]

Look at the video keaks
Very small war head and veey inaccurate

Video leaks dont tell us the full truth, but objective satellite images do. US and Israel have the means to block objective satellite photos of their se strive sites from leaking to the public for months. They are following the same censorship and willful deceit plots they used in TP3. , dont fall for them.

 

[SolarWarden]

Fog of war but I hope it's true

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[tsunset]

Stop posting tweets from Indian degenerate toilet cloggers about Iran on this thread, no one cares of them they aren't worth anything but clogging toilets everywhere they go

 

[PK781]

is iran still attacking or have the attacks stopped?
Or Is there negotiations restarted?

All the photos of the hits in gulf/uae/qatar etc are old and being re-posted again and again by everyone ?? Nothing new, those r from day 1 i think

 

[Aggregate]

I think you are failing to understand something: Iran has lost.

Iran isn’t HZ or Taliban or Hamas, it’s a developed country with half trillion GDP. This isn’t surrender and fight another day. It’s pure surrender.

It was over in June. But copium on this board was that “Israel came begging for a ceasefire”. The reality is US/Israel completed their knock out blow and were giving Iran a chance to negotiate on the nuclear program.

Iran didn’t budge and they removed the Supreme Leader and several more officials yesterday.

Iran’s system has failed and its ideology has failed. It’s time for a new phase for the country.

But by all means go ahead and fight for honor and pride at this point, all that will mean is more of Iran sadly gets destroyed until Iran “drinks from the poisoned chalice”.

Iran lost the day when the Fatwa against Nukes was issued. Yes, they may be violent, but nobody is asking you to use them. They are supposed to be deterrence to the exact kind of BS that is happening all over and around Iran and that's it.

That is equivalent to a tribe form Medieval times announcing to everyone that they are banning the use of swords and arrows on account of the mass violence they cause. And then sitting back and waiting for everyone to give them free crops, in appreciation.

 

[Dalit]

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[Watandar]

Just destroy everything in PGCC until they cry and beg Iran to stop it, including civilian targets

I think switching to shooting at offshore oil platforms and ships in the Persian Gulf, while simultaneously firing missiles at Israel may be better. I know its asking for a lot but the cost of this war for GCC, Israel and Western economies is what will determine if Iran is attacked again in 6 months time.

 

[RescueRanger]

is iran still attacking or have the attacks stopped?
Or Is there negotiations restarted?

All the photos of the hits in gulf/uae/qatar etc are old and being re-posted again and again by everyone ?? Nothing new, those r from day 1 i think

It's 22:44 in Tehran right now. Won't get many updates.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iraqi Resistance publishes: This is the beginning ...

 

[Dalit]

Stop posting tweets from Indian degenerate toilet cloggers about Iran on this thread, no one cares of them they aren't worth anything but clogging toilets everywhere they go

Toilet cloggers...

 

[Immortals]

I’m not going to repeat myself. You tell me how Iran has lost. Educate me.

Iran is now Saddam post 1991. Sure Baathist still have power, but they are so weakened and under sanctions they aren’t a threat to their neighbors. Saddam ruled over a corpse of a nation.

IRGC + Elite are in similar shoes. The Islamic republic is still in power, but the are now so weakened they aren’t a true military threat in the region.

How many times is Iran going to rebuild these tunnels for the U.S. to just bomb?

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The military losses are likely in the tens of billions of dollars and will eclipse 100B+ the longer the war goes on.

The corpse of the Air Force is being destroyed

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And the best Iranian air defenses are no match for even US drones:

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The nuclear program has been laying under rubble for a year.

Not sure how you think that Iran holds any cards to reverse these realities.

Iran’s deterrence was being able to turn the Middle East on fire with Hz, Iraq, Houthis, and Hamas. When it was in Syria it would have forced the US and Israel to fight an aerial war in 5 countries (Yemen, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon) which would be a lot harder for any air force on the planet and would strain their enemies. It would allow more missiles to be fired and air defenses to be able to handle the strain and it would result in the enemy’s shield letting plenty of projectiles thru.

Iran has none of what Solemani built. It’s the weakest it’s been in 15 years.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

18 Israelis killed in Iran's missile strike near Jerusalem this morning

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a great strike

Actually, some of the reports state 24 missing under the rubble and over 40 wounded.

There is also report for an attack on Israeli air force meeting by an Iranian missile, and the Israelis are tightliped about it.