Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Ibbi32 said:
Obsession with being the first taking hangors record. Pakistan should issue formal correction to these illiterate bastards
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why has american give this fanatic B*stard the control of the strongest military in the world?

He talks like a child and sounds like he is unseriouis and unprofessional for such a high level job, his sentences legit sound like he plays call of duty all day and thinks thats warfare.

Could America have not done a better job with some of their selections? Any american here to tell me why such a immature baffoon is in charge every press conference i hear from him seems to be stuck at only blaming poor old joe biden
 
Ibbi32 said:
Obsession with being the first taking hangors record. Pakistan should issue formal correction to these illiterate bastards
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I think we misunderstood Hegsath here. He meant first sinking by an American sub not first sinking ever
 
RescueRanger said:
What threats? Attacking economic targets whilst Israeli bases are still safe and fully operational?

Please explain the logic, I promise I am open to listening and understanding how this helps Iranian war objectives.
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i mean isnt it obvious?

The system is an interconnected web, with economic components, military components. Iran needs to establish deterrence by imposing costs on the system which the US/Israel exist as part of. When it comes to the survival of the state, no one is going to restrain their options, and Israeli bases are inaccessible for now at least until the interceptors are diminished.
 
Tabmachine said:
i mean isnt it obvious?

The system is an interconnected web, with economic components, military components. Iran needs to establish deterrence by imposing costs on the system which the US/Israel exist as part of. When it comes to the survival of the state, no one is going to restrain their options, and Israeli bases are inaccessible for now at least until the interceptors are diminished.
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So you want to light the region on fire. Okay gotcha. Let me know how that works out.

I love you all but this won't work.
 
j_hungary said:
You are running on 2 assumptions.

1.) GCC doesn't understand the risk when it offers its base to the US.
2.) Iran will "win" by playing a long game.

Well, GCC knows the risk when they offered their base to the US, it's not like "Oh, we don't know basingthe US fleet here in Bahrain will make someone attack us" Unless either all those GCC administrators are extremely incompetent, they know the risk involved, the issue here is why they ask the US to base their naval and air fleet in their country in the first place. That's already shown during the first Gulf War forward, when Jordanian land was attacked, and their pilot was actually and literally burned alive. The key is geopolitical cooperation. I can write an entire article on this, but I will just be short here. They needed the US presence in the region. Because of the trade route, until China or someone else can guarantee the security at sea, they will need the Ameircan present. And China is not interested in becoming the world Police.

Second point being, nobody would win, not Israel, not the US, and definitely not Iran, if we are playing the long game. First of all, what is winning? If by US win is an Iranian regime change, that may or may not happen, not holding my hopes up, if by Israel win, that means a destruction of Iran, then that's NOT going to happen. And if Iran wins, it's a destruction of Israel, that's not going to happen, or pushing the US out of the region? Well, that's not really up to them now, is it, and as long as Isreal exist, it's not going to happen, even if we are talking about remaining as it is, minding its own business, how's that a win for Iran?

Now the question is, what would Iran do? Hence, the dilemma I suggested. You want to keep attacking the US and Israel assets? If that is the way you try to go punch on punch, Iran is not going to get anywhere because they can't touch the US, even if you can neutralise Israel, US weapons in the region are just one month away. And trust me when I say it, with 11 aircraft carriers, sending a pair each, you can have 4 to 5 rotations that last a lot longer than 1 month. How about attacking other GCC nations and spreading it equally? Well, you may send fear to the GCC, and they stop supporting the US. Well, sure, never say never, but you have an equally, if not a better chance, to further piss off the GCC nation by bombing their country.
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This is not about risk

This is about the U.S CHOOSING to plunge the region and multiple countries into war, affecting multiple economies all for the benefit of Israel

The countries certainly knew the risks, but they expected that the presence of these bases would deter attack and preserve their regimes


What they didn't expect that the U.S out of nowhere would launch a destructive war, not caring one bit about their economies, states and welfare just for one Zionist tumor of a state

And not only that, but to spend treasure and effort to protect that ONE state whilst their countries suffered the fall out


Everyone called them stupid before and now they look retarded



The war itself is destructive, violent and brutal and many will die


But just like the Ukraine war, the Russians have lost a million men or whatever it is, they have spent so much that failure is not a option, so whatever happens they will go on until by hook or crook they get the result they want in Ukraine

The same as Iran
The war has been launched, the ayatollah has been killed and brutal attacks upon their people

Bending over now is pointless, it imperils the future of Iran and risks war again in a few years if not sooner

So whatever the costs, Iran best path is to absorb the attacks and pain and seek to destroy the U.S presence In the region

Get them out of Iraq
Target them on Syria and the GCC

Make the U.S presence a burden not a positive

Iranian military commentators, have stated that their objective will be to get to a point where A.D is under strain to stop any missiles or drones


Will they do it? I'm betting yes as a large state of 93 million but we will have to see
 
In regards to sinking of Dena who is the retard in charge of ordering this sub into international waters? She and her crew could be safe interned in india but no suicidal charge into enemy waters. This is why i always question the competency of iranian commanders
 
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Hatay, Türkiye, fragment of the interceptor missile.


RIM-161 Standard Missile 3??
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