Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakAl]

Very disappointing so far not seeing much damage to Israel while 1000 Iranians already died from enemy bombings...

Expectation : Russia and China has supplied Iran with many new air defense systems including counter-stealth radars and even some AWACS, J-10s and Su-35s, allowing Iran to easily detect and engage enemy planes

Actual Reality : The same old shitz of Iran not being able to do anything against Israeli Air Power. This is the same old script since the Arab-Israeli Wars when it was the Sunni's shot at defeating Israel before they all lost many times due to not having Air Superiority and then giving up to now pass the baton to Shiites. I read back in Arab-Israeli Wars about how all Muslim lost in Air Power so easily to the Zionists.

Solution : I'm born Muslim, so naturally I want my side to become the winning team. It's for my self-esteem and self-confidence that I want IRAN to win here because I've been exposed to Anti-Islam content everyday on X from both Westerners and Japs, so I have been feeling down for a long time. Come one man, somebody needs to hand us Muslims a big victory just like the good old times of Saladin and Sultan Mehmet. So who's going to grant Iran this victory?
They should have negotiated better than to boast about winning wars when the results so far are not what I expected it to be with not much enemy planes shot down.

Unfortunate but the truth. Even if muslim nations had j10s or su35s, in a war they will loose because world powers can produce planes to replace those they loose but Muslims nation cannot. The Arabs lost against Israel since Usa gave intelligence, ammunition, airforce to Israel, today the exact same is happening, Usa Israel with their air superiority are destroying Iran, they want to neutralise Iran forever.

 

[Bengal71]

>oil infra
>gas infra
>airports
>desalination plants

Iranian drones will inevitably hit these targets if the IRI begins to collapse (not likely at the moment)

the entire region will suffer immensely. all because Arabs insisted on inviting the US military onto their territory for use against Iran.

Should not wait until the collapse. Should hit now while it still can.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Watandar]

Though, nobody is developing nukes anymore. That window is long gone. the last ones to do so, started their programs in the 1970s or 1980s (either Pakistan or North Korea were the last ones to start, as some say NK started in 70s).

Anyone that even thinks about them, will be sanctioned and eventually attacked. Whoever made them, made them. Other countries can make alliances with them, but that's about it, now. In a way 1971 was probably a blessing in disguise for Pakistan as it pushed us to develop the program, else we'd have been sitting with nothing in hand today, as well.

Oh I think there is going to be a massive push by many countries, many in GCC itself, for nukes or other kinds of WMD after this war. The evidence is simply too overwhelming. No nukes or wmd ? Or give up your nukes or wmd ? Prepare for a full blown attack. Iraq, Ukraine, Libya, Iran the examples are endless.

I do concede that South Africa also gave up its nuke program and primitive devices and hasn't been attacked yet but who knows! South Africa was a major critic of Israel in Gaza and that alone puts a target on their back.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[PakAl]

This operation has been Bibi's wet dream for many many years now.

Decades, since the 1990s he wants a piece of Iran so Israel is the dominant power in the middleeast. After Iran Israel will be untouchable, he did say he will change the face of the middleeast.

 

[Flotilla]

The endgame is to weaken Iran to the point it no longer is a threat to Israel.

They will leave after the region engulfs in chaos, potentially leading to balkanization or Iran. Israel will continue occasional air strikes every few months to destroy any attempt to rebuild. Essentially turning Iran into Somalia, before they move on to Israel's next threat

Good luck with that. They didn´t have enough economic resources to maintain a long air campaign against Yemen which is considerably closer and smaller than Irán.
Retaliating Iran regularly will be much more expensive and challenging than other proxies. Imagine when a Democrat Government reach the White House.

 

[RescueRanger]

Oh man I am not talking about a good or bad option I am talking about how and why someone would think that way.

I think it's already too late the EU navies moving into Cyprus are involved in this war covertly already.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[RescueRanger]

Decades, since the 1990s he wants a piece of Iran so Israel is the dominant power in the middleeast. After Iran Israel will be untouchable, he did say he will change the face of the middleeast.

That is their end game.

 

[kobra]

The endgame is to weaken Iran to the point it no longer is a threat to Israel.

They will leave after the region engulfs in chaos, potentially leading to balkanization or Iran. Israel will continue occasional air strikes every few months to destroy any attempt to rebuild. Essentially turning Iran into Somalia, before they move on to Israel's next threat

And they are going to fail in it their game.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[koolio]

 

[Flotilla]

Absolutely

This will be painful for iran, I was always going to be and their is no way out of that or around that

But the fundamentals are the same, a 93 million large state, with no invasion force at its door


It will take repeated hits that will be made into propaganda


But if iran can retain its ability to fire drones and missiles and drags this war out then it can hit any infrastructure or U.S bases and Israel in the region

We are on Day 5, this is going to be much longer



This is all about how much missiles Iran can produce under fire and how much they can retain to be fired in the future


In the end their will be no winners, BUT if Iran can wipe out the U.S presence in the region
If it can destroy their embassy and intelligence infrastructure
If it can both punish U.S allies and teach them the U.S is a risk that only cares about Israel and is extremist Christian state

Then the geo strategic reality of thee region has been rewritten


This is yet and stupid American war and everyone knows it

You described perfectly well. Just to add that it would eventually be a strategic defeat to US and Israel. GCC countries will seek another partners for peace (China).