Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Emirzad said:
Qataris are funding stupid articles about downing imaginary jets and missiles and drones in western news agencies that will publish any crap if you pay them.

They are claiming Imaginary IRIAF jets attacking Qatar. LOL the type they say attacked them is grounded because of lack of spares. These PGCC countries were trying to suck Jews+US off but got punched by IRGC so hard that they are now inventing stories to escape the responsibility to actually fight aggressor Iran. I like it. Imaginary jets and missiles being shot down lol.
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Actually its not hard to believe that hundreds of missiles are intercepted and those jets shot down too. There are millions of residents from various countries who are eye witness of effectiveness of air defense systems installed. But every now and then a missile or a drone gets through defenses too.
 
All the missile bases are still safe, right? If they are as deep as claimed (300-600 meters underground) then the bunker-busters won't be able to penetrate, right? Even if the entrances are collapsed, there's still a way to access and fire those missiles from inside or create a new entrance from inside?
 
side-winder said:
Makes sense why the pilots had literally no reaction time.

But a serious "dafuq" moment for the Kuwaiti pilot and his ground controller.
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I think Kuwaiti pilot scored three kills - intently was shooting to kill.

NOW why he did it? did he went rogue?
 
maxpane said:
Hows your father and your relatives ? Hope they are fine.
On topic what they were doing in that area isnt it too far from iran, for su 24s?
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Blasts everyday. Whenever I'm on the phone with him, I'd hear the shockwaves of the Patriot missiles going up. Missiles are being shot specifically at the training wing buildings now at Isa Air Base. The IPs and student pilots along with some ground crew occasionally pick up missile fragments as souvenirs. Iran and Bahrain have had their Shia versus Sunni games for years....this time they have a reason to fire at them.

The word was that they had taken off to attack Al Udeid while flying low level but got intercepted a bit late. Lead was hit first while no. 2 a few seconds afterwards. No wreckage found yet though.
 
rishi7887 said:
There is merit in the article. There are several videos coming out of Iran that show predator drones circling above in the skies. Since the AD right now seems non existent, these underground bases are going to be of little use. Americans have the ordinance to penetrate deep underground and destroy such facilities. Again, the main problem is the AD. Even MANPADs would've probably helped in some cases to take out drones. I'm not even going into ISR from satellites. I'm sure the pentagon already has plenty of info on these underground bases.

Looking at the rate at which the missile and drone strikes are reducing, I'm inclined to believe that the end is just a few weeks away.
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The missile rate is reasonable

The initial surge was both because of capabilities, and to use up interceptors and get some missile penetration to hit targets.

Now it's getting to the point where virtually everything will get through,

Their is no invasion force waiting, Iran knows this, it can now drag this out and the longer it's dragged out the more pressure that builds up
 
Chinese air defense systems failed Iran? Or the enemy's EW assets are so powerful that just ground-based AD without the full package of Friendly Air Force jets with modern AESA radars and AWACS working together, makes Iran unable to handle enemy EW and mass saturation missile attacks?

 
Raider 21 said:
Blasts everyday. Whenever I'm on the phone with him, I'd hear the shockwaves of the Patriot missiles going up. Missiles are being shot specifically at the training wing buildings now at Isa Air Base. The IPs and student pilots along with some ground crew occasionally pick up missile fragments as souvenirs. Iran and Bahrain have had their Shia versus Sunni games for years....this time they have a reason to fire at them.

The word was that they had taken off to attack Al Udeid while flying low level but got intercepted a bit late. Lead was hit first while no. 2 a few seconds afterwards. No wreckage found yet though.
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Thats not a good news if it continues like that may be another Desert storm is on the card.
As your father is IP so he wnt be a part of any mission right?
Hope things go back to normal but trith is its not looking good for the region.
I pray that you father and his students remain out of danger.
we all are with you.
 
hussain0216 said:
The missile rate is reasonable

The initial surge was both because of capabilities, and to use up interceptors and get some missile penetration to hit targets.

Now it's getting to the point where virtually everything will get through,

Their is no invasion force waiting, Iran knows this, it can now drag this out and the longer it's dragged out the more pressure that builds up
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Thats a good point.

Iranian missiles with lower number of launches can create more damage as the interceptors stock has come down.

In addition, the KhurramShehrs and cluster bombs are absolutely impossible to intercept in terminal phase.

InshaAllah with Haifa port and few other air bases up in smoke, the Iranians will have more leverage at the negotiating table.
 
hussain0216 said:
The missile rate is reasonable

The initial surge was both because of capabilities, and to use up interceptors and get some missile penetration to hit targets.

Now it's getting to the point where virtually everything will get through,

Their is no invasion force waiting, Iran knows this, it can now drag this out and the longer it's dragged out the more pressure that builds up
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Yes and missile firing over last 2 days is similar and may have stabilised.

Most ballistic missiles are being fired now at Zionist entity and not US bases in Gulf States.

Iran needs to keep this up for 4-6 more days to severely deplete Zio-US interceptors.
 
BrigSmart said:
A lesson that use of hyperbole always comes back to bite you. The Indian Navy definitely does not have the ability to guard the coasts of South Africa and Australia.

It is sad and unfortunate that the incident happened, especially the loss of lives of the Iranian sailors. My condolences and sympathies are with the families.

However, it is important to maintain perspective. The ship left India three days before the war started. Irrespective of the legality of the war and the fact that the IRIS Dena was completely outmatched, an enemy naval frigate is a legitimate target. Iran would also have tried to sink any American naval assets they could. When it was sunk, the ship was far from India's coast ,and probably trying to enter Sri Lankan territorial waters from the south to wait out the conflict and the Americans probably decided to take it out while it was still in international waters. The US Navy did not violate even Sri Lankan territorial waters, let aside Indian.

The Indian Navy had no obligation to protect a foreign naval vessel in the high seas. It would certainly have been against Indian national interest for the navy to have sailed south of Sri Lanka and a fought a naval battle against the US Navy to defend an Iranian naval vessel even if India had intelligence about what was going to happen. What happened is unfortunate, but no one from even the Iranian government has suggested India has any responsibility for the sad sinking of the ship and loss of life. In war, bad things happen.
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Very long excuse
 
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